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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by cleverbot » Wed May 15, 2019 6:52 am

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by melkobukva » Wed May 15, 2019 8:34 am

those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_agai ... ust_denial

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by jliat » Wed May 15, 2019 9:03 am

"Censorship has been criticized throughout history for being unfair and hindering progress. In a 1997 essay on Internet censorship, social commentator Michael Landier claims that censorship is counterproductive as it prevents the censored topic from being discussed. Landier expands his argument by claiming that those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true, as individuals believing themselves to be correct would welcome the opportunity to disprove those with opposing views."

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We had the debate here, the chief advocate of Holocaust denial fled..

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Post by xdugef » Wed May 15, 2019 9:12 am

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We had the debate here, the chief advocate of Holocaust denial fled..
Wow! Your butt is really sore

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by melkobukva » Wed May 15, 2019 9:31 am

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by jliat » Wed May 15, 2019 10:00 am

Sorry you've lost me?

Matthew A. Sears is an associate professor of classics and ancient history at the University of New Brunswick.???

I'm well aware of the denial of platform thing, and i'm against it, so what has this to do with the quote. Warlock eventually openly expressed Holocaust denial, not sure about you. Do you?

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jliat wrote:
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Sorry you've lost me?

Matthew A. Sears is an associate professor of classics and ancient history at the University of New Brunswick.???

I'm well aware of the denial of platform thing, and i'm against it, so what has this to do with the quote. Warlock eventually openly expressed Holocaust denial, not sure about you. Do you?

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by jliat » Wed May 15, 2019 10:05 am

Great Adrian, so now you wont let me debate against a Holocaust denier. Mr Spielberg will be happy.

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

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Great Adrian, so now you wont let me debate against a Holocaust denier. Mr Spielberg will be happy.

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by xdugef » Wed May 15, 2019 11:05 am

jliat wrote:
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Great Adrian, so now you wont let me debate against a Holocaust denier.
If he fled then how the fuck am I stopping you from debating him?

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by puddysjacket » Wed May 15, 2019 1:20 pm

Fletcher wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 7:45 am
cleverbot wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 7:08 am
jliat wrote:
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Adrian Hi!

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Re: those who impose censorship must consider what they censor to be true,

Post by melkobukva » Wed May 15, 2019 4:44 pm

jliat wrote:
Wed May 15, 2019 10:00 am
Sorry you've lost me?
1997 was a better year than 2019, because at that time Michael Landier's views were more mainstream than those of Matthew A. Sears, and now its' the other way around
however, Michael Landier's argument is flawed, because, unlike Michael Landier, Matthew A. Sears does not care whether a proposition is true or false
instead, he evaluates propositions as nice or mean, and mean propositions are to be censored regardless of their truth or falsity
so when Matthew A. Sears imposes censorship, he must consider what he censors to be mean, but does not have to consider what he censors to be true

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