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Post by jliat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:53 am

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if forum post releases confuse you so much, i can only imagine what will happen when you find out about my HARD DRIVE releases :twisted:
I'm not the one confused about releases. You had a release for sure on the comp. The thing you posted was a track that was not released. You guys had plans to do this but it never happened.

So you are kind of saying everything you do is a release or could be, that's OK. Push the concept further and you can claim everything you don't do is also....
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Post by xdugef » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:02 am

jliat wrote:
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So you are kind of saying everything you do is a release or could be, that's OK. Push the concept further and you can claim everything you don't do is also....
To paraphrase Chris Burden the documentation is more important than the performance.

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Re: bots

Post by melkobukva » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:09 am

jliat wrote:
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So you are kind of saying everything you do is a release or could be, that's OK.
not everything, just "A music produced by each individual for himself, for pleasure outside of meaning, usage and exchange"
from this point of view, project files on my HDD are more legitimate noise releases than what people post on soundcloud & bandcamp or trade on discogs - ipso facto inside of meaning, usage and exchange

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Post by jliat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:10 am

Can be...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Painted_Word

"Wolfe's thesis in The Painted Word was that by the 1970s, modern art had moved away from being a visual experience, and more often was an illustration of art critics' theories."
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Post by xdugef » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:20 am

If a noise artist farts in the woods does it count as a release?

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Post by jliat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:28 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:09 am
jliat wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:53 am
So you are kind of saying everything you do is a release or could be, that's OK.
not everything, just "A music produced by each individual for himself, for pleasure outside of meaning, usage and exchange"
from this point of view, project files on my HDD are more legitimate noise releases than what people post on soundcloud & bandcamp or trade on discogs - ipso facto inside of meaning, usage and exchange

Maybe - " The consumer … will thus become a producer and will derive as least as much of his satisfaction from the manufacturing process itself as from the object he produces. He will institute the spectacle of himself as the supreme usage... The bulk of commodity production then shifts to the production of tools …." Attali.
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Re: bots

Post by melkobukva » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:29 am

xdugef wrote:
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If a noise artist farts in the woods does it count as a release?
nah, that would be a live show

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Post by xdugef » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:32 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:10 am
Can be...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Painted_Word

"Wolfe's thesis in The Painted Word was that by the 1970s, modern art had moved away from being a visual experience, and more often was an illustration of art critics' theories."
I can't find it but I saw an article recently about a guy who restores video game consoles and is claiming that his collection of them is art .. I guess because he restored them. I'll post the article if I find it... total hipster scum.

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Post by xdugef » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:37 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:29 am
xdugef wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:20 am
If a noise artist farts in the woods does it count as a release?
nah, that would be a live show
Well that was sort of what Chris Burden would do.. he would do these performances that did not have an audience .. they only evidence of it would be the documentation which would of course eventually be seen or shown or whatever.

Otherwise your collection of recordings is little more than masturbation until you die and somebody finds it several decades later in an attic and proclaims it the best previously known recordings of a recluse.

In one way .. it's probably better for one's inner peace to make work for themselves and never present it to anyone. The art and noise would probably be better off for it... so please soldier on to yourself!

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Post by jliat » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:37 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:29 am
xdugef wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:20 am
If a noise artist farts in the woods does it count as a release?
nah, that would be a live show
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Post by clemonz » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:43 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:37 am
melkobukva wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:29 am
xdugef wrote:
Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:20 am
If a noise artist farts in the woods does it count as a release?
nah, that would be a live show
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Post by clemonz » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:46 am

tbh, i think i'm just getting unnecessary flack for not being gay enough. i'd suck a dick to feed my family :shrug:

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Post by cleverbot » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:52 am

clemonz wrote:
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:37 am
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:29 am


nah, that would be a live show
unplugged
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clemonz wrote:
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tbh, i think i'm just getting unnecessary flack for not being gay enough. i'd suck a dick to feed my family :shrug:

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Post by clemonz » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:57 am

i'm .001 gay, and it's my good side :D
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