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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by clemon » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:50 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:46 am
clemon wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:15 am
imagine the NSA's file on daric... oh god he got high again :D he's talking to the dog :lol: :lol:
well, it did get me out of jury duty, true story
:lol:

i have no idea what your backstory is, you're just a good, moody, looking, guy who IT'S LIKE THE CANTERBURY TALES TELL ME ALL
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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by s.p.i.n. » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:22 am

stop having so many god damn kids and this shit wont be such a fucking problem :wall:
I like the way people think bitching will stop it.
When X day comes, my ass is partying with Bob and all pinks will fry..Bob be praised.
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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:33 am

s.p.i.n. wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:22 am
stop having so many god damn kids and this shit wont be such a fucking problem :wall:
I like the way people think bitching a pissing their diapers will stop it.
When X day comes, my ass is partying with Bob and all pinks will fry..Bob be praised.
climate change cant be stopped, its natural, man has nothing to do with it

overpopulation is an old myth, war and greed cause most of the problems, this planet could provide a pleasant living for 20 billion if we all got along

the real problem on the earth is simple pollution but that never gets addressed because corporations run our society, microbeads and triclosan are killing the oceans right now but people rant about what the climate will be like in a hundred years :roll:

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by clemon » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:41 am

corporations run our society
yay, fascism! define corporations ? i'm genuinely interested, idk how to
shit wont be such a fucking problem
ethical shopping?
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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by s.p.i.n. » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:58 am

clemon wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:41 am
ethical shopping?
Oh, right..I remember Monty Python's premise of irony.
Yeah, you don't get much of a choice over there it seems.

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:03 am

clemon wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:41 am
corporations run our society
yay, fascism! define corporations ? i'm genuinely interested, idk how to
corporation- an artificially intelligent machine whose parts are made of people but its actions are based on greed, market share is a corporations only concern and it is willing to sacrifice any resource to get more be it human, animal or mineral, a corporation must always act for its immediate survival and cannot show compassion, it has no interest in the well being of others, it is only able to compete and is always preying on weaker entities to grow, the blood of any corporation is not just the dollars but the will to use them, the consumers must choose what is best for them and they then finance their own enslavement through the corporation instead of seeing nature as the shopping center, they gladly work and pay for what is rightfully free to all

short definition- a mental disease brought on by self loathing
clemon wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:41 am
shit wont be such a fucking problem
ethical shopping?
the monetary system is one of deficit, this is not overcomeable, nature knows no deficit, we dont owe nature anything, money doesnt feed people, nature does


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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by clemon » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:41 am

existence without essence!

haha :doh:
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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:56 am

jliat wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:16 am
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:lol: omg...
To read Timothy Morton's "Ecology Without Nature" is to be slapped in the face, not with the content of his argument but with the style of his writing. Although for some reason he begins denying that his is a postmodern book written in postmodern prose, the opposite is evident to anyone who flips through and tries to work through the dense undergrowth of his prose. It comes as no surprise that he rejects association with the po-mo crowd but embraces deconstruction and Derrida, as if these had nothing to do with each other. Such contradiction runs rampant through the text, not hidden at all but celebrated as if establishing the deconstruction-ness of it all. And, as if to justify the writing style, Morton also cannot resist dropping the name of every philosopher he tripped (sic) over in grad school, those familiar and those unknown.
Perhaps we deserve this, but do we need it? Morton says yes, that Ecological writing, which he refers to with the neologism "ecomimesis," is too grounded in the romantic assumption that we humans can somehow, perhaps through literature, identify with the otherness we call "nature," thus Morton's critique of the "ecomimetic illusion of immediacy" what he also refers to as the "beautiful soul syndrome." His text is more a negative attack on the assumptions of romantic nature writers than the construction of an alternative. What is deconstruction if not a universal acid that deconstructs even its own efforts? So how could he create anything of any use, other than as a critique of the romantic assumptions running rampant?
In this, I am sympathetic to his argument even as I am repelled by his condescending voice. I see it, to some extent, in the tradition of William Cronon's critique of the idea of wilderness as far too romantic.
Yet why write in a voice that creates a wall between the text and the reader, since the point of writing is to communicate? Like any po-mo deconstructionist, Morton loves to throw around the word "commodity." Perhaps this is what such language is, the commodity of the graduate school and the tenure-track professor trying to establish his (or her) credentials in the hierarchical aristocracy of academia, entrance into which requires the possession of such a tongue?
I can imagine grad students trying to prove themselves worthy poring over the complexities inherent in every other sentence like medieval supplicants trying to approach the mysteries of the mass chanted in a Latin they did not know. It is a symbol of a world which seems full of knowing and mystery and wonder inside of which the holy of holies hides, revealed only to the inner sanctum of the priesthood.
Thus, we get a paragraph that begins "Ecomimetic ekphrasis sits in an oblique relation to the text," as indeed does the intelligent reader. What to make of: "This jetztzeit or nowness is an intense signifying atmosphere that erupts out of the `homogeneous empty time' of official reality, even when the ideological machinery is running smoothly."
Despite the modern and post-modern feel of his ramblings, what Morton cannot completely hide is his rediscovery of the pre-modern religious idea of "sin." No, not sex, but the reality that we are all trapped in this illusion of a text from which we cannot escape. That every attempt to get from "I" to "Thou" fails because we cannot escape ourselves. Hence Emily Dickinson:

How adequate unto itself
Its properties shall be
Itself unto itself and none
Shall make discovery

Adventure most unto itself
The Soul condemned to be -
Attended by a single hound
Its own identity.

That we cannot escape from ourselves into some blessed other we call Nature, the heart of the book, is thus an ancient tale retold many times, and in much clearer style. Back in the 60s, Norman O Brown said quite clearly, "The Fall is into language." Outside of the text is not, as Derrida said, nothing, but a void which to us is holy terror, not grace. Morton has brought us stumbling full circle back to the Old Testament: "In the fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom."

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:27 am

Embattled French President Emmanuel Macron has said he will not abandon a controversial fuel tax, as he set out France's future energy strategy.

The so-called yellow vests protests have seen thousands take to the streets across France over fuel prices.

But Mr Macron struck a conciliatory tone, saying he was open to ideas and revising how the fuel tax was applied.

He also announced that France would close all coal power stations by 2022, along with a number of nuclear plants.

In his speech on Tuesday, Mr Macron said: "I am not confusing the rioters with citizens who want to convey a message.

"I sympathise with my fellow citizens, but I will not give in to violence."

He said "you cannot be pro-environment on Monday and then when Tuesday comes be against rising fuel prices".

But in a concession, he said the controversial tax could be adjusted when fuel prices soared to ease the burden on motorists.

He pointed to decades of French policy encouraging citizens to move farther from cities and travel by road.

"We pushed them into this situation… they are the victims of this situation, they have not created it," he said.

"We should listen to the social alarm and protests, but there is also an environmental alarm."

He acknowledged that many citizens felt the policy was being imposed on them without consultation. After his speech, French broadcaster BFMTV reported that that the ecology minister would meet with representatives from the yellow vests movement later on Tuesday.

France is heavily dependent on nuclear power, which Mr Macron pledged to reduce to 50% of the national energy mix by 2035 by closing 14 of the country's 58 reactors. None, however, will be closed before 2022 with the exception of Fessenheim on the German border.

That is on top of the closure of all four of France's remaining coal-fired power plants and investment of billions of euros into renewable energy.

Mr Macron's approval rating has fallen steadily in recent months, with his deeply unpopular fuel tax increase adding to his political woes.

The gilets jaunes rallies were originally about fuel tax increases. Protesters donned the yellow vest required to be carried in every vehicle by law and blocked roads, causing widespread traffic jams.

But the protests have now spread to encompass rising anger at high taxes and living costs, and span the entire political spectrum - even the far right, which the government blamed for violence in Paris at the weekend.

Those protests saw the famous Champs-Elysées packed with 5,000 people with thousands more spread across the rest of the capital.

Tear gas and a water cannon were used to disperse crowds after barricades were erected on the capital's streets and a small number of protesters tried to break a security cordon.

Most demonstrators have remained peaceful. But one person died during the protests when they were struck by a panicked driver. A few days later, a motorcyclist was also killed when they were hit by a van making a sudden turn in the traffic chaos.

But Mr Macron is also facing opposition from the political class.

On Tuesday, 12 of France's 13 regional leaders called on Mr Macron to reconsider the fuel tax.

In the letter, published in French newspaper L'Opinion, the regional presidents called for a moratorium on the tax, writing that it would be a "serious mistake" to characterise the widespread protests as an extremist movement.

Instead, they wrote, it was indicative of widespread anger of citizens forced to live further and further from their place of work and spend more on travel.

The collected presidents also added that they were not against environmental taxes, but rather in favour of taking the time to improve the proposals.

After his Tuesday speech, Mr Macron's political opponents decried what they described as a lack of action.

Far-right National Rally leader Marine Le Pen said the president's words were "devoid of any solutions", and the only thing he had convinced her of was the need for change.

Jean-Luc Mélenchon of the leftist France Unbowed group labelled the speech "an hour of noise" without any answers, while Socialist Olivier Faure wrote that the president "says that he hears [the complaints], but does not understand".

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by clemon » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:53 am

maybe my imagination, but think my life may have ended today
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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:53 am

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some of you may appreciate my traditional official election day shirt...
yet this decade it is more important waking up as many kindred as possible
"The Global Warming Hoax" is a transference of wealth scam
for consolidating Power for the "non elected" ruling class
destroying the middle class making them more submissive "Serf" class
so they can not affording pushing back against "The International Oligarchs"
whilst you are suffering collective punishment & demographic/cultural replacement/genocide
it is merely one of the tactics currently at play
do not submit to Politically Correct Tyranny
Techno Feudalism is part of their agenda
(FYI Eye am not some insane quintessential RightWing Oxymoron Christian Truther if you haven't noticed)

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by jliat » Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:54 am

Or....


I love him whose soul is deep even in the wounding, and may succumb through a small matter: thus goeth he willingly over the bridge. I love him whose soul is so overfull that he forgetteth himself, and all things are in him: thus all things become his down-going. I love him who is of a free spirit and a free heart: thus is his head only the bowels of his heart; his heart, however, causeth his down-going. I love all who are like heavy drops falling one by one out of the dark cloud that lowereth over man: they herald the coming of the lightning, and succumb as heralds.

Lo, I am a herald of the lightning, and a heavy drop out of the cloud: the lightning, however, is the SUPERMAN.—

5. When Zarathustra had spoken these words, he again looked at the people, and was silent. "There they stand," said he to his heart; "there they laugh: they understand me not; I am not the mouth for these ears. Must one first batter their ears, that they may learn to hear with their eyes? Must one clatter like kettledrums and penitential preachers? Or do they only believe the stammerer? They have something whereof they are proud. What do they call it, that which maketh them proud? Culture, they call it; it distinguisheth them from the goatherds. They dislike, therefore, to hear of 'contempt' of themselves. So I will appeal to their pride. I will speak unto them of the most contemptible thing: that, however, is THE LAST MAN!"

And thus spake Zarathustra unto the people: It is time for man to fix his goal. It is time for man to plant the germ of his highest hope. Still is his soil rich enough for it. But that soil will one day be poor and exhausted, and no lofty tree will any longer be able to grow thereon. Alas! there cometh the time when man will no longer launch the arrow of his longing beyond man—and the string of his bow will have unlearned to whizz! I tell you: one must still have chaos in one, to give birth to a dancing star. I tell you: ye have still chaos in you. Alas! There cometh the time when man will no longer give birth to any star. Alas! There cometh the time of the most despicable man, who can no longer despise himself.

Lo! I show you THE LAST MAN.

"What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?"—so asketh the last man and blinketh. The earth hath then become small, and on it there hoppeth the last man who maketh everything small. His species is ineradicable like that of the ground-flea; the last man liveth longest. "We have discovered happiness"—say the last men, and blink thereby. They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need warmth. One still loveth one's neighbour and rubbeth against him; for one needeth warmth. Turning ill and being distrustful, they consider sinful: they walk warily. He is a fool who still stumbleth over stones or men!

A little poison now and then: that maketh pleasant dreams. And much poison at last for a pleasant death. One still worketh, for work is a pastime. But one is careful lest the pastime should hurt one. One no longer becometh poor or rich; both are too burdensome. Who still wanteth to rule? Who still wanteth to obey? Both are too burdensome. No shepherd, and one herd! Every one wanteth the same; every one is equal: he who hath other sentiments goeth voluntarily into the madhouse.

"Formerly all the world was insane,"—say the subtlest of them, and blink thereby. They are clever and know all that hath happened: so there is no end to their raillery. People still fall out, but are soon reconciled—otherwise it spoileth their stomachs. They have their little pleasures for the day, and their little pleasures for the night, but they have a regard for health. "We have discovered happiness,"—say the last men, and blink thereby.—

And here ended the first discourse of Zarathustra, which is also called "The Prologue": for at this point the shouting and mirth of the multitude interrupted him.

"Give us this last man, O Zarathustra,"—they called out—"make us into these last men!

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by killing raven sun » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:35 am

jliat wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:54 am
Or....

[gibberish]
boring, irrelevant, posturing

quoting books you dont understand makes you look stupid

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Re: global warming hoax near end

Post by jliat » Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:48 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:35 am
jliat wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 2:54 am
Or....

[gibberish]
boring, irrelevant, posturing

quoting books you dont understand makes you look stupid
So you think Zarathustra "boring, irrelevant, " gibberish! - one of the most influential works probably ever, certainly in the 2othC. Its where you get all your ideas regarding being "different" from...(& WW!) - have you read it i wonder? I mean you post lots of "boring, irrelevant, posturing" videos... your latest begins "I cant claim this is based on hard evidence"... :lol:

And so yes - it does make you look very stupid. (not that anyone reads our exchanges)...

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