jliat wrote:and despite many lit-critters wanting otherwise Nietzsche had a big influence - in the ideas of will to power and all things being permitted
well this isn't entirely fair; the Nazis "used" a lot of ideas but anyone who gives an honest look at Nietzsche's ideas can see that they're incompatible since he hates both nationalism and racism/anti-semitism. Bataille wrote a lot about this subject in the Acephale
of course that's also why it's completely braindead stupid to blame Christianity for nazism or anything else
RJ; I'm not sure if that last statement was aimed at my comment personally, but I'm just going to go ahead and take it personally anyhow;
YOU are completely braindead.
My point was: Forget about fucking Hitler! his "power" whether measured in death toll, or ideological influence, is insignificant, compared to others; he is merely our modern day bogeyman. Several other world leaders have killed far more people than Hitler. And Hitler's fucked up philosophies have reached the minds of fewer people than Christianity.
My point is, that if you want to determine how "powerful" a single person was, you should look at how many other people's lives were affected in some way by that single person. In other words, look at the "amplitude" of their personality.
From this page:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... -christian
"Hitler did mention Christianity many times in his writings. He paid Christianity a lot of lip service in Mein Kampf, and he claimed to be a Christian."
'Historian Paul Johnson wrote that Hitler hated Christianity with a passion, adding that shortly after assuming power in 1933, Hitler told Hermann Rauschnig that he intended "to stamp out Christianity root and branch."'
In 1933, Hitler said, 'It is through the peasantry that we shall really be able to destroy Christianity because there is in them a true religion rooted in nature and blood.'"
" In addition, in 1941, Hitler told General Gerhart Engel: "I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so." He never left the church. He was baptized a Roman Catholic as an infant and was a communicant and altar boy in his youth."
This is not about so much about "blaming" Christinsanity for Nazis, (there are many other atrocities we can blame Christ's followers for!) but understanding that, one way or another, the words of Jesus Christ reached the ears of nearly everyone on Earth, including your beloved Adolph Hitler. And understanding that Christ's words have been echoing through the minds of people all over earth for a far longer time than pussy ass Hitler's. The influence of what Jesus Christ did and said, in his lifetime, has affected more people throughout history than Hitler, thus he was more "powerful"
More actions, good or bad, have been taken in the name of Christ, than have ever been done in the name of Hitler.
My question is, based on this measure of power, is there any single human who ever existed, who is even more powerful than Jesus?