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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by timdrage » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:38 pm

Yes the bazz fuss is great, proper noise effect and in my experience it works great with pretty much random component values, LEDs as clipping diodes etc

ATP or any 555-based synth sounds horrible anyway, a CD40106 is much better and easier, you can make something with 6 oscillators that actually make some powerful squarewaves as opposed to 555 thin bleepy farts

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:44 am

Personally not into using 9v 555s for audio square waves
yet have had very good results using them for timers & CV modulators
used them on some way more advanced DIY projects such as heavily modified/modular PAIA 7555 "Fatmans"
they sound acceptable in such cases yet that is way more advanced than APC...
made it feedback in circuit for extra LM13600 volume/resonance in the modular circuit via old ms20 trick
so they sound way stronger than typical APC 555...
555s are weak sounding running at +9v versus say +15/18v obviously ~shrug~
Have an old APC around here that the GetLoFi guy gave me ages ago at the circuit benders swap meet in the 2000s..
saw that circuit creature crawling around the workbench recently & stole the 9v battery plug off it for something else
so should actually mount it on euro faceplate with cv inputs...
thanks for posting the Bass Fuss circuit....
will slap one together for putting in eurorack soon since it is getting good reviews from you guys...
he is obviously taking his first baby steps so whatever he can get making usable noise is an inspiring win
BTW the only paper circuit eye have ever made this is the old Bell Labs Speech Synthesizer kit...
and mounted it on drilled plexi... you will find that exact circuit eye constructed used as artwork on some recent gatefold 3x vinyl LP
the plexiglass method works great for paper circuits IMO
BTW archived all those paper circuits from the link you posted for experimenting with/mutating/evolving
the waveforms on those paper circuit link looks fun

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by timdrage » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:38 pm

Yeah i have been contemplating making that bell labs speech thing, I think I have enough info from the photos and scans I've found... pdf of the instruction book etc.

Yeah Pete Blasser's paper circuits are pretty incredible/weird :)


I made a pedal which is just 4x Bazz Fuss circuits in a row, built using whatever i had to hand, with no controls except bypass :D horrible

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Post by TerminallyBlue » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:32 pm

Thanks for the links, everyone!
Ill definitely check out the Bass Fuzz, sounds exactly like something I could use. Dumb question, though, in the Sounds section on that side, what do the numbers next to the clip (114k, etc) mean? Is that related to the parts or the input sounds?
Also, when you say CD40106, do you mean something like this?
https://andreassiagian.wordpress.com/20 ... -tutorial/
Or what kind of schematic should I look at?

Ill most likely have a person help me with soldering and figuring the stuff out, but I would still like to keep it simple for starters, as far as I know, the person who will be helping me didnt really fiddle with any schematics for good 20 years now. :)

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:56 pm

timdrage wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:38 pm
Yeah i have been contemplating making that bell labs speech thing, I think I have enough info from the photos and scans I've found... pdf of the instruction book etc.

Yeah Pete Blasser's paper circuits are pretty incredible/weird :)


I made a pedal which is just 4x Bazz Fuss circuits in a row, built using whatever i had to hand, with no controls except bypass :D horrible
the bell labs voice synthesizer isn't real impressive IMO(3 sounds)
unless you take time for swapping components making full voder array of sounds
(was obsessed with the oldschool voder & eventually got some archaic waveboy ensoniq sample/FX that suffices)
and/or massively expand the circuit for having it gate triggered and respond for pitch CV
the basic 3 sounds are super simple... you will find other optional vowel/consonant component values listed in the manual...
it was fun 1day project for me while watching obscure horror/scifi movies
FYI ultimately realized you will need way more of those "inductor coils" for making it really worthwhile project
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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by timdrage » Sun Nov 25, 2018 3:38 pm

TerminallyBlue wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:32 pm
what do the numbers next to the clip (114k, etc) mean? Is that related to the parts or the input sounds?
...that's the filesize of the mp3s.
TerminallyBlue wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:32 pm
Also, when you say CD40106, do you mean something like this?
https://andreassiagian.wordpress.com/20 ... -tutorial/
yep exactly :)

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Post by Bipolar Fucking Joe » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:43 pm

Also, +1 for the Nicolas Collins book, great info for beginning making weird sounds.

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Post by TerminallyBlue » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:52 pm

http://www.home-wrecker.com/harmonic.html

Do you guys think this would be a good effect for noise? I know Steve Albini swears by the original, but obviously he doesnt play harsh noise... :)

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:12 am

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no clue honestly
will build one
have the parts
sort of want dioing few trax in that style with roland analog drum machine
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saw the first Shellack show also... in logansquare... debut of those strange trebly custom heads
then again soon after with MX80 Sound at congress theater on Milwaukee
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Oldschool WickerPark scene...


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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by TerminallyBlue » Tue Nov 27, 2018 6:58 pm

Whats the difference between those and this one?

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:10 pm

top version uses 2n3904 transistor
the deluxe version has 3 100k? knobs Volume/Gain/Thick
your schematic looks like the 3rd basic version
was looking at some options on design

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by Misomusist » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:18 pm

The difference is the MPSA13 is a Darlington transistor, basically two in one, I think he shows you how to couple two regular transistors together to make one, on that page.

It's like 1 louder, innit :mrgreen:

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Re: Show us yr DIY!

Post by crochambeau » Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:07 pm

Took me this long to complete the build I previously posted about, systems went in and back out, etc...

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