Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:12 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:12 am
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:44 pm
you would get the same result if used inagadadividda or most anything with noise reduction and the wrong settings...
anything with volume under the threshold settings
does that make it "noise"?
I'm sorry but you seem to misunderstand what i'm saying. Using noise as in harsh noise, or anything gives silence, (this happened by accident! messing with Pulse Demon.. and I soon realised my mistake!) if you use the sample for the reduction envelope, and apply it to that sample you get silence! - so I tried the same process with HNW made from white noise, and YOU DONT GET SILENCE. Sorry to shout but I've said this now at least twice. So big deal IDK. Interesting, for me yes, for you probably not. Is it noise, again IDK, its interesting as its unexpected. (like Aristotle said a heavy object will fall faster than a lighter one, and it took some dumb Italian 1500 years later to prove him wrong!) I'm not trying to make noise i'm messing with stuff and getting strange results...
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:44 pm
it does to the misused "noise reduction" effect
anyways
this entire "debate" is actually absurd
what is more ironic is that you supposedly comprehend using "noise reduction" correctly
now lets see what the bot says.......................................................................................
I may not " comprehend using "noise reduction" correctly", I only claim to have used it to remove background noise to enable to listen to a lecturer speak, removing the air con, and also to remove his from recordings. Is my comprehension wrong? Or is the fact that I manged to remove the background noise wrong?

The bot says 'xdugef AKA Adrian Dimond' wanted to win an argument, and lost, so getting pissed with me' , as if the nature of randomness and determinacy were my fault! And he keeps saying this and keeps getting more and more pissed, hence this thread!

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by jliat » Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 am

clemonz wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:57 pm
what usually happens is that jliat got something wrong but is onto something anyway... i know this because i've spoken to him :D
volume under the threshold settings
was the volume under te threshold settings? i don't know goldwave
The same sort of thing happened with the silence thing, that there are 65536 different types possible on CD. A guy from Newcastle University underwater acoustics dept said I would hear nothing, but you actually hear a click. And effectively 'louder' silences cause speaker damage.

If you look at the image from goldwave I posted there is no volume setting so i'm not sure what you mean.
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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 am
clemonz wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:57 pm
what usually happens is that jliat got something wrong but is onto something anyway... i know this because i've spoken to him :D
volume under the threshold settings
was the volume under te threshold settings? i don't know goldwave
The same sort of thing happened with the silence thing, that there are 65536 different types possible on CD. A guy from Newcastle University underwater acoustics dept said I would hear nothing, but you actually hear a click. And effectively 'louder' silences cause speaker damage.

If you look at the image from goldwave I posted there is no volume setting so i'm not sure what you mean.

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by clemonz » Sun May 26, 2019 12:20 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 am
clemonz wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:57 pm
what usually happens is that jliat got something wrong but is onto something anyway... i know this because i've spoken to him :D
volume under the threshold settings
was the volume under te threshold settings? i don't know goldwave
The same sort of thing happened with the silence thing, that there are 65536 different types possible on CD. A guy from Newcastle University underwater acoustics dept said I would hear nothing, but you actually hear a click. And effectively 'louder' silences cause speaker damage.

If you look at the image from goldwave I posted there is no volume setting so i'm not sure what you mean.
hmm.

well, i am impressed if you haven't fucked up. i think it classes as a neat discovery tbh

gonna write a book?
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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:26 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 am
clemonz wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:57 pm
what usually happens is that jliat got something wrong but is onto something anyway... i know this because i've spoken to him :D
volume under the threshold settings
was the volume under te threshold settings? i don't know goldwave
The same sort of thing happened with the silence thing, that there are 65536 different types possible on CD. A guy from Newcastle University underwater acoustics dept said I would hear nothing, but you actually hear a click. And effectively 'louder' silences cause speaker damage.

If you look at the image from goldwave I posted there is no volume setting so i'm not sure what you mean.

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:27 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:12 am
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:44 pm
you would get the same result if used inagadadividda or most anything with noise reduction and the wrong settings...
anything with volume under the threshold settings
does that make it "noise"?
I'm sorry but you seem to misunderstand what i'm saying. Using noise as in harsh noise, or anything gives silence, (this happened by accident! messing with Pulse Demon.. and I soon realised my mistake!) if you use the sample for the reduction envelope, and apply it to that sample you get silence! - so I tried the same process with HNW made from white noise, and YOU DONT GET SILENCE. Sorry to shout but I've said this now at least twice. So big deal IDK. Interesting, for me yes, for you probably not. Is it noise, again IDK, its interesting as its unexpected. (like Aristotle said a heavy object will fall faster than a lighter one, and it took some dumb Italian 1500 years later to prove him wrong!) I'm not trying to make noise i'm messing with stuff and getting strange results...
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:44 pm
it does to the misused "noise reduction" effect
anyways
this entire "debate" is actually absurd
what is more ironic is that you supposedly comprehend using "noise reduction" correctly
now lets see what the bot says.......................................................................................
I may not " comprehend using "noise reduction" correctly", I only claim to have used it to remove background noise to enable to listen to a lecturer speak, removing the air con, and also to remove his from recordings. Is my comprehension wrong? Or is the fact that I manged to remove the background noise wrong?

The bot says 'xdugef AKA Adrian Dimond' wanted to win an argument, and lost, so getting pissed with me' , as if the nature of randomness and determinacy were my fault! And he keeps saying this and keeps getting more and more pissed, hence this thread!

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:31 am

clemonz wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:20 am
jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:19 am
clemonz wrote:
Sat May 25, 2019 11:57 pm
what usually happens is that jliat got something wrong but is onto something anyway... i know this because i've spoken to him :D


was the volume under te threshold settings? i don't know goldwave
The same sort of thing happened with the silence thing, that there are 65536 different types possible on CD. A guy from Newcastle University underwater acoustics dept said I would hear nothing, but you actually hear a click. And effectively 'louder' silences cause speaker damage.

If you look at the image from goldwave I posted there is no volume setting so i'm not sure what you mean.
hmm.

well, i am impressed if you haven't fucked up. i think it classes as a neat discovery tbh

gonna write a book?

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by jliat » Sun May 26, 2019 12:55 am

Lets go through the whole thing, starting with a chunk of Harsh Noise,
You need to Ctl C the chunk highlighted to place it in the clipboard.
1.JPG
1.JPG (47.76 KiB) Viewed 380 times
Now use this highlighted chunk as the reduction envelope = the finger print of what we want removed...
2.JPG
2.JPG (95.28 KiB) Viewed 380 times
Apply this 'fingerprint' to itself...
3.JPG
3.JPG (61.42 KiB) Viewed 380 times
We get silence, it removes itself - now (ignoring bot) lets use white noise, random, (Adrian -no matter how many times you read the file it remains random)
Last edited by jliat on Sun May 26, 2019 1:12 am, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:57 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:55 am
Lets go through the whole thing, starting with a chunk of Harsh Noise,

1.JPG

Now use this highlighted chunk as the reduction envelope = the finger print of what we want removed...

2.JPG

Apply this 'fingerprint' to itself...

3.JPG

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by clemonz » Sun May 26, 2019 12:58 am

i haven't got goldwave so i can't sing along, sorry

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 12:59 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:55 am
Lets go through the whole thing, starting with a chunk of Harsh Noise,

1.JPG

Now use this highlighted chunk as the reduction envelope = the finger print of what we want removed...

2.JPG

Apply this 'fingerprint' to itself...

3.JPG

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by jliat » Sun May 26, 2019 1:06 am

4.JPG
4.JPG (38.55 KiB) Viewed 374 times
You can generate white noise in Goldwave (and there is a free trial version...)
Tools - expression evaluator... remember to Ctrl C...
5.JPG
5.JPG (73.11 KiB) Viewed 374 times
So the fingerprint is this chunk of white noise - so when applied to itself should produce silence
but
6.JPG
6.JPG (38.83 KiB) Viewed 374 times
it doesnt.

Why? Ah... not bothered or.... i think it might be something like the pure artefacts of the NR algorithm...

So is this noise - well its not wanted, and it wasn't intended! So maybe it must be...

Then they discovered the muon—a surprisingly heavy cousin of the electron with no apparent purpose other than to baffle scientists. The muon was so unexpected that, regarding its discovery, Nobel laureate Isidor Isaac Rabi famously quipped, “Who ordered that?”
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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 1:07 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 12:55 am
Lets go through the whole thing, starting with a chunk of Harsh Noise,

1.JPG

Now use this highlighted chunk as the reduction envelope = the finger print of what we want removed...

2.JPG

Apply this 'fingerprint' to itself...

3.JPG

We get silence, it removes itself - now (ignoring bot) lets use white noise, random, (Adrian -no matter how many times you read the file is remains random)

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Re: Jliat's masturbatory noise reduction system

Post by cleverbot » Sun May 26, 2019 1:08 am

jliat wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:06 am
4.JPG

You can generate white noise in Goldwave (and there is a free trial version...)
Tools - expression evaluator...

5.JPG

So the fingerprint is this chunk of white noise - so when applied to itself should produce silence
but

6.JPG

it doesnt.

Why? Ah... not bothered or.... i think it might be something like the pure artefacts of the NR algorithm...

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