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by jliat
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:52 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: the noise 365 project
Replies: 6
Views: 121

Re: the noise 365 project

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Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:24 am


our email is klonk@shitcore.org

Sent email regarding this....
by jliat
Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:57 am
Forum: Marketplace
Topic: audible disease rupture rp-1
Replies: 0
Views: 18

audible disease rupture rp-1

I have one of these - I no longer use, is it likely to sell on ebay? audible disease rupture rp-1
by jliat
Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Gear
Topic: Your recent purchases:
Replies: 1409
Views: 265427

Re: Your recent purchases:

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by jliat
Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

so the book on adrono is wrong?? I wouldn't say that, it certainly has errors. The obvious one is confusing poetry with literature, and referring to Greenberg. In the Greenberg piece they cite, Greenberg specifically says poetry like painting … Poetry—for it too had to escape from "literature" - In...
by jliat
Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

not super interested in him... got so much to read man. (1) This displacement of the privilege of poetry through music is also crucial to Clement Greenberg's modernist understanding of the system of the arts.... (2) Nonetheless, he is explicit that his defence of the autonomy of painting is set wit...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:31 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

nah i wasn't just repeating myself :lmao: *mind blown* can't speak for jliat, dunno if he really really (really?) knows his shit :chin: fact that some of his old friends do no, james is dumber than you are because he thinks he is smart, but his fake smart guy routine falls apart with minimal scruti...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

can't speak for jliat, dunno if he really really (really?) knows his shit :chin: fact that some of his old friends do All you have to do is read the link I sent Greenberg is an easy read. Sad though he recanted late in life the ideas he had about painting being art and said painting should just be ...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:05 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

Simple version. For Greenberg this is BAD painting as it illustrates literature- its Ophelia from Hamlet http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/N/N01/N01506_10.jpg BAD This is a good painting as it illustrates nothing... http://www.galleryintell.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Jackson-Pollock-Number...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:01 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

Simple version. For Greenberg this is BAD painting as it illustrates literature- its Ophelia from Hamlet http://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/N/N01/N01506_10.jpg BAD This is a good painting as it illustrates nothing... http://www.galleryintell.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Jackson-Pollock-Number...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

so the study of music de-privileged literature? i don't get what your problem is with this No! Painting in Greenberg's terms didn't study music! FFS it focused on its own non representational stuff, paint, canvas, flatness, nothing to do with music! It stopped illustrating stories, representing nat...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

In retrospect, there is something surprisingly traditional about many of Greenberg's critics since they have not only sought to destroy the systematic specification of the arts, but have done so through the reassertion of a literary paradigm through which this dissolution is to be understood. This ...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:37 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

that he greenberg claims it was a historical process doesn't mean it didn't happen :huh: First off - your quote above is not Greenberg. For Greenberg music did not de-privilege literature, but offered a model for an artform not to imitate another but focus on its own formal qualities. You obviously...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:26 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

you obviously do not understand what i'm saying, because it does relate to greenberg, and how he felt music de-privileged literature. He makes no such claim. He sees literature of Romanticism as being harmful to the art of poetry and painting, in that Greenberg sees each art should not imitate anot...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

maybe privilege RE greenberg was the wrong term to use, not sure Why not sure, its very clear from his text, each art form is independent of the others in modern art. He sees this as a key feature especially in determining each artform's different subject, i.e. its own materiality... It is in terms...
by jliat
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:10 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: contemporary sound poetry
Replies: 420
Views: 1288

Re: contemporary sound poetry

maybe privilege RE greenberg was the wrong term to use, not sure Why not sure, its very clear from his text, each art form is independent of the others in modern art. He sees this as a key feature especially in determining each artform's different subject, i.e. its own materiality... It is in terms...