Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:01 am

your monobius sounds brutal
what is the guitar?
headstock looks sort of like ovation electro acoustic bevel back yet probably completely wrong
what type of pickup???
preamp...
or is the pedal doing that?
regardless that is some fucking super gain/fuzz/distortion

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by crochambeau » Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:46 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 8:01 am
your monobius sounds brutal
what is the guitar?
headstock looks sort of like ovation electro acoustic bevel back yet probably completely wrong
what type of pickup???
preamp...
or is the pedal doing that?
regardless that is some fucking super gain/fuzz/distortion
Thanks!

You are correct regarding the guitar headstock, it's an Ovation Viper, stock passive pick-ups (both are switched in in the video) feeding the Monobius which was plugged into a Fender Quad Reverb on the no reverb channel with all controls more or less dialed to mid point (5.5 preamp gain, 5s across the tone controls, and a 4.5 at master volume).

I hung a single Oktava MK219 about 18 inches out for the audio feed, recording direct to a Zoom H4.

There might be a little front end distortion happening at the amp, as the Monobius output levels can get quite high, but not so much that it masks the character of the pedal.

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:00 am

that ovation(never seen that guitar before)
safe bet the neck on your ovation plays awesome
what year is that?
60s or 70s model?
good gain output from the bricky/hershey bar pickups?
are they humbuckers or actually single coils?
reminds me of the pickup on my 63 airline tuxedo
is that the original strange tune-o-matic bridge?
betting it has actual les paul type gibson sustain
had black ovation pbass from early 80s long ago
it was actually total quality construction
(have never been able finding another one)
asked because of being extremely discriminating about guitars/pickups & tone/gain/sustain
you probably get how that is
even though guitars are total despised taboo around here
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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by crochambeau » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:39 am

I'd put this one at 1977 based on serial number, I haven't taken it apart looking for a date stamp to confirm. I like the neck, not too slender & not too club-like, an easy transition from my strat.

I'm seeing them at prices that would probably make me consider alternatives, but if you come across one at below market value it's a nice and solid instrument. Everything is dead stock on this except the pick guard which I cut out of mild steel and then patina'd.

The pickups are, I think, single coil. They're fairly hot, and seem to offer a wide representation of frequency, without emphasizing anything too much. It's a nice guitar, but I would guess it's kind of like a somewhat mild & tame classic car - not really adept at some of the things that car enthusiasts crave, but it gets you around in style. If that makes any sense. More of a doomer and less of a shredder (whether or not I'm describing myself or the guitar is open to interpretation). I have 13-56 on it, and they're nicely dead, but it will sustain very well with enough amp in the room.

The people who despise guitars can bite my baunch :mrgreen: (hahaha, just kidding, love you all even in the face of selective short sightedness).

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:04 am

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https://www.seymourduncan.com/blog/the- ... nd-the-sh9
in somewhat of a insane obscure quandry with one of my guitars right now....
it's about my 84 gibson explorer that track kahler solos with
that got for case of PBR from old friend
way back when we lived in punk rock shanty town practice space that used to be butcher shop
anyways... he took both the EMGs out as part of that deal....
replaced with 80s duncan distortion & "dirty fingers"
now my quandry is....
have this other pickup that have had since ummm 91 that pulled from my les paul
never knew what it was....
plus it was oversized and would crack mounting plates
turns out as just realized recently
it's the rarest ever hand wound duncan pickup SH9 silverbird
looks like the custom shop duncan super doom "slug" pickup
no video demos exist online anywhere for SH9 silver bird
they are insanely obscure hand wound circa 1983
less than 100 exist & no one has any clue how many were actually made
temped putting it in the explorer bridge position
yet can't remember if attempted that before or if it will even fit the routing
or of should attempt putting it in my SG
so totally temped....
yet at same time so not tempted until complete current recordings
feeling completely obligated using that pickup for recordings
and making total doom demo video
then sending for duncan
considering have been using hand wound duncans for almost 3 decades
original screaming demon prototype has been my main pickup all those years
hear is rough demo of both guitars 1. les paul (screaming demon) 2. explorer (duncan distortion)
Marshall 50% gain no distortion pedals
no unwanted line noise/feedback
http://www.n01ze.com/NFM1.mp3
you get the basic idea
oh yeah both guitar are covered in my blood
dna verification in case of theft
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for people that despise guitars
not my problem
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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:57 am

your monobius would probably sound superb with Doom when dialed in for such
or even with bass
have old habit of playing bass with soviet big muff
speaking of witch need getting back busy practicing/composing/recording

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by crochambeau » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:55 am

Those sound nice and hot, I like it.

I keep thinking about building a guitar that utilizes the single pole pickups from a Hammond tone wheel organ, but they're like 3 inches long or thereabouts so either I'd need to cut the pole-piece (I'm reluctant for obvious reasons), install them at an angle, or have a stupidly thick body. The angle idea is winning currently, but that might change when (if) I get around to carving up a plank or block of some material.

Anyway, I just uploaded the Tetanus Booster revised demo as well to assist their situation in the storefront:


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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:02 pm

where are you getting those blank metal box cases?
get you are giving them the chemical "crustation" treatment
looking around for making some pedals
have metal shop yet would rather not bend them on the brake
(grew up working in the family metal shop... go figure)
that may ultimately be method that use again
didn't really want designing/fabricating the cases also from scratch
(timesink)
can contact some places for fabricating them
yet asking around first
plus searching ebay
need making some new designs soon
pedals/synthboxes
not modular circuits on faceplates
you get what eye am saying

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by crochambeau » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:46 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:02 pm
where are you getting those blank metal box cases?
I get them at my local metal yard in 4x8 sheet form, then I show them the slitter, brake & spot welder.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:02 pm
have metal shop yet would rather not bend them on the brake
(grew up working in the family metal shop... go figure)
I can see how that would burn you out on it, but on the converse - banging out a box is pretty easy with practice and the right tools! 8)

That's all I've got. Fabrication and patina are just part of my process. I know Bud Industries still produces bent steel boxes, and I think Hammond does as well... but as I'm sure you're aware there's a lot of additional cost lumped in on what would otherwise be a dollar worth of raw material.

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:03 pm

very much appreciated
can always do the two piece interlocking method of boxes
easy enough designing
or get off my arse and use one of the welders
then turn on the grinders
honestly didn't even think about welding the seams on them
didn't want the time sink
yet if the bud boxes are the only other easy option
should contemplate some DIY
alrighty then
need to go see what metal have in the shop now
instead of being fucking lazy
thanks
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old stereo Panner/Tremolo of the Dead built in prefab metal box
(having hard time finding those cases on ebay now for some reason)

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by crochambeau » Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:55 pm

That's a nice looking build. I've also seen some enclosures on etsy, but everything there seems directed at the one-off craft builder "price is no object" crowd. Finding a cost effective point between one off and ordering up a hundred from your neighborhood metal shop is rough, that's why I started buying tools. DIY is also super nice in that shifting dimensions in the middle of a project to accommodate reality is not a crushing set-back, only a minor one.

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by Fletcher » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:30 am

crochambeau wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:46 pm
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:02 pm
where are you getting those blank metal box cases?
I get them at my local metal yard in 4x8 sheet form, then I show them the slitter, brake & spot welder.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:02 pm
have metal shop yet would rather not bend them on the brake
(grew up working in the family metal shop... go figure)
I can see how that would burn you out on it, but on the converse - banging out a box is pretty easy with practice and the right tools! 8)

That's all I've got. Fabrication and patina are just part of my process. I know Bud Industries still produces bent steel boxes, and I think Hammond does as well... but as I'm sure you're aware there's a lot of additional cost lumped in on what would otherwise be a dollar worth of raw material.
I work in steel fabrication as a trade (also a family business....)

Have access to guillotine, press brake, plasma cutter, welders etc etc...

Problem is I spend 10+ hours a day here, so have no burning desire to spend any more time here doing my own projects, as easy as it would be if I had the energy.
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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by Misomusist » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:46 am

But just the access helps. I find myself way slowed down by not having the same access to components as I used to. The whole compiling a list of parts, figuring out where to order them etc. just kills motivation.
I think trying to quantify music is one of the biggest wastes of time in the world, like discussing your favourite colour or deity or pizza topping. People should realise that and get on with their life.

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Re: Rochambeau Musical Apparatus

Post by Bipolar Fucking Joe » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:55 am

Recently started a job as a welder and fabricator. What the fuck is with noise guys working in metal shops?

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