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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:30 am

One of the 'best' Electric Universe videos yet, it take only 50 seconds before it blunders into a mistake
or fabricates a lie. That's all you need to watch folks - 50 seconds!

Olbers' paradox.

Which simply is why is the night sky dark when it should be light? "known as the "dark night sky paradox"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox

And goes back at least to the 6thC A.D. The paradox is that a static, infinitely old universe with an infinite number of stars distributed in an infinitely large space would be bright rather than dark.

"The darkness of the night sky is one of the pieces of evidence for a dynamic universe, such as the Big Bang model."

Remarkably one of the resolutions was from the poet Edgar Allan Poe.

50 seconds to Fail.

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:59 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:30 am
why is the night sky dark when it should be light?
its not. as usual this is a problem of perception, you see darkness because the eyes are limited and the mind rushes to fill in the blanks, when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:47 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:30 am
The paradox is that a static, infinitely old universe with an infinite number of stars distributed in an infinitely large space would be bright rather than dark.
let me lay waste to this poppycock...

a "static" "infinte" universe is the morons oxymoron

infinity is a process, an ever expanding set of 1

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:55 am

Olbers's paradox argues that as the night sky is dark, at least one of these three assumptions about the nature of the universe must be false.
In astrophysics and physical cosmology, Olbers' paradox, named after the German astronomer Heinrich Wilhelm Olbers (1758–1840), also known as the "dark night sky paradox", is the argument that the darkness of the night sky conflicts with the assumption of an infinite and eternal static universe. The darkness of the night sky is one of the pieces of evidence for a dynamic universe, such as the Big Bang model. In the hypothetical case that the universe is static, homogeneous at a large scale, and populated by an infinite number of stars, then any line of sight from Earth must end at the (very bright) surface of a star and hence the night sky should be completely illuminated and very bright. This contradicts the observed darkness and non-uniformity of the night.

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:31 am

are you giving up, old man? you are tired huh?

rage... rage against the dying light

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:58 pm

killing raven sun wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:59 am
jliat wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:30 am
why is the night sky dark when it should be light?
its not. as usual this is a problem of perception, you see darkness because the eyes are limited and the mind rushes to fill in the blanks, when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look
No.

Image

Have you ever looked at the night sky through a telescope. Actually the picture above is misleading, the sky is 'magnified' including the dark areas. It is why even fairly small scopes need 'finders'. Sure you see more stars, but you see more darkness.

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:10 am

jliat wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:58 pm
Sure you see more stars, but you see more darkness.
aw, thats so cute, like a child afraid to turn out the lights, these things are hard to understand with your childlike mentality, but i will explain anyway for everyone else who can understand

"space" isnt an empty vacuum, its filled with plasma and particles and photons, "darkness" is the inability to detect photons, not to be confused with the "absence of light", the energy is always there whether you detect it or not, "darkness" is a purely subjective judgement and meaningless outside the human condition

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:33 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:10 am
jliat wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 11:58 pm
Sure you see more stars, but you see more darkness.
aw, thats so cute, like a child afraid to turn out the lights, these things are hard to understand with your childlike mentality, but i will explain anyway for everyone else who can understand

"space" isnt an empty vacuum, its filled with plasma and particles and photons, "darkness" is the inability to detect photons, not to be confused with the "absence of light", the energy is always there whether you detect it or not, "darkness" is a purely subjective judgement and meaningless outside the human condition
ignoring the inaccuracies above - you stated
when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look
which is simply not true.

I like the idea that darkness is the inability to detect photons, this can be done by closing your eyes.

Anyway the current theory is kind if similar in that space isnt empty but filled with virtual particles, also that the early universe was opaque...

Anyway cheer up, forget the telescope blunder, here is an item which your Thunderbolts guys will love - so you can get there before the video...

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... nal-waves/

Only goes to show that real science is open to refutation.... unlike fake electric universe nonsense- enjoy! :chin:

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:04 am

jliat wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:33 am
- you stated
when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look
which is simply not true.
yes it is.
lol, ligo was never science based, its been political from the start, just like iter and cern

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:21 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:04 am
jliat wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:33 am
- you stated
when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look
which is simply not true.
yes it is.
OK. lightly nods while backing out of the room, not breaking eye contact...
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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:32 am

oh shit, cell phone video, how definitive :roll:

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:08 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:32 am
oh shit, cell phone video, how definitive :roll:


Its what you use for your granular synthesis!
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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by timdrage » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:34 am

when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look
If anything the opposite is true, I've looked thru a telescope in what was to the naked eye still quite light blue dusk sky and seen totally black space and the moons of saturn :3

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by killing raven sun » Wed Nov 07, 2018 7:08 am

timdrage wrote:
Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:34 am
when viewed through a telescope the sky is all lights everywhere you look
If anything the opposite is true, I've looked thru a telescope in what was to the naked eye still quite light blue dusk sky and seen totally black space and the moons of saturn :3
your apparatus is inefficient at gathering photons

darkness is a perception, not a thing, it cant be "seen" because it doesnt exist, similar to "heat"

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Re: ELECTRIC UNIVERSE

Post by jliat » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:04 am

Or darkness is not a perception but the inability to perceive - in this case light. Just as silence is impossible to perceive, John Cage was wrong.

Heat is the vibration of matter, or wave/particles in the electro magnetic spectrum, i.e. infrared.

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