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Bass Guitar Input

Post by rauldbz » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:14 am

Hello, as I am really inexperienced with making noise, what would you guys think that would be some good gear/pedals to make a noise setup with a bass guitar as input?

I would like to use this in the context of a band (preferably to be able to switch between a normal bass sound and a "full noise" sound) and also to make just noise w/o a band.

Sorry if my question is kinda dumb, and thank you!

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by crochambeau » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:28 am

If you have a preferred bass sound already, maintain that and integrate a side chain set for lunacy.

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by WhiteWarlock » Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:47 am

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Eye use this with my bass for driving synth CV gate current for vintage gear
360 systems slavedriver
yet you may want thinking about something like
the old Electro Harmonix Bass Synthesizer
in your pedal chain
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agree with the side chain method and volume/mix pedal or something
you can even throw ms20 mini on the side chain yet will require conversion from 1/4" to 3.5mm on input and output
there is way for driving it with f/c patch and the external input processor
something for contemplating
plus you can use it in multiple ways creating
those are some super basic starting points

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by rauldbz » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:15 am

Well, I know that I am a real noob, but how does one make a side chain? I looked a bit on the internet but all I can find is about side chain compression.

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by WhiteWarlock » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:31 am

you are making the 1/4" out multiply
just rig something with custom Y cable for starters
yet the real way for not losing signal integrity is doing multiple via opamps
for increasing DB signal gain on multiple outputs
you can also make some basic 1/4" Y type stompbox pedal and/or switcher box
1 in 2 outs
then run another complete output signal chain through pedals gear amps whatever...
does that sound logical?

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by crochambeau » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:38 am

rauldbz wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:15 am
Well, I know that I am a real noob, but how does one make a side chain? I looked a bit on the internet but all I can find is about side chain compression.
Split your signal (I prefer active electronics, but I'm sure someone will mention just using a Y cable), one leg goes straight on and the other branches into any other shit you like. That mess (the side chain) can then rejoin your signal path via some mixing method (passive or active).

If you want to employ a feedback loop, the point that the sidechain returns to your standard path will occur *before* the split (there are numerous feedback loop pedals out there, in addition to DIY. Being able to select signal polarity (inverting or non-inverting) is a huge feature here...). If you do not want a feedback loop, the sidechain returns *after* the split.

I realize I'm being pretty vague, this is because the act of discovery is VASTLY more enlightening than simply following a recipe. I'm happy to be more informative if you like.. ;)

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by rauldbz » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:47 am

I understood better now how the side-chain works, both answers were helpful, thank you! I 100% agree about the "act of discovery", I don't really want to follow any recipe, just to get the basics of those things so I can go from there and search by myself. All advices/guides/instructions are welcomed, and then I'll do further research.

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by crochambeau » Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:31 am

Hook things up every which way and you'll discover what's "wrong" (I refer to no output, not aesthetic preference).

Respect power supply voltages and polarities.
Avoid hooking the outputs of an amplifier to anything other than a speaker (headphone output doesn't count, that can usually go anywhere).
Beyond that, anything goes.

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by WhiteWarlock » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:43 am

mentioned Y cables because of fastest method for him exploring...
even if it requires him hacking something together
opamp multiples will be something he can discover down the road if so inclined

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by xdugef » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:28 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:43 am
mentioned Y cables because of fastest method for him exploring...
I love Y cables bruh!! :lol:

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by crochambeau » Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:42 pm

xdugef wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:28 pm
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:43 am
mentioned Y cables because of fastest method for him exploring...
I love Y cables bruh!! :lol:
:lol: WW, your post wasn't there when I began writing, the Y cable jab was directed at xdugef. I have to maintain face on this particular subject.

Whatever floats your boat though.

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:37 am

no big stress... Y is "passable" especially for noobs.... yet opamp buffered is the right/best way especially with CV... some peoples entire sound is degrading... so not like they really care

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by MKULTRA » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:39 am

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Re: Bass Guitar Input

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:45 am

totally agree... it's the best string2cv tracking ever used.... and have used many... tracks way better than string2midi... have 2 of them.... an extra parts unit just in case... those things are loaded with "tropical fish"
tracks lightyears better than the system in my Avatar... event though suspect it is actually older... still searching for 360 systems frequency shifter on ebay....have used one with EMU modular "somewhere" and they are "awesome"... it's pretty much a BODE FS

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