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Post by killing raven sun » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:23 am

jliat wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:46 am
Absolutely do not pretend to know much about the "noise scene". I'm interesred in the genre for
various reasons and have made some noise pieces. Again noise doesn't require talent. But if someone wants to
agonise for days over a track, fine. Somone else used the term, not mine, polishing turds.

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Post by killing raven sun » Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:10 pm

killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:23 am
jliat wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:46 am
Absolutely do not pretend to know much about the "noise scene". I'm interesred in the genre for
various reasons and have made some noise pieces. Again noise doesn't require talent. But if someone wants to
agonise for days over a track, fine. Somone else used the term, not mine, polishing turds.

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Post by jliat » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:04 am

Given in noise all normal ideas are reversed … but i'm not taking credit.

Update on free MP3 downloads.

Merzbow variations - 1930 Var 9

https://soundcloud.com/jliat/sets/jliat ... variations

Voreinstellungen (presets)

Emu Audity 2000 All banks now uploaded 0-4

Emu Xtreme-Lead 1
All Banks 0-3 uploaded

Free to download and use.

https://soundcloud.com/jliat/sets/voreinstellungen



TNB - But once the 'music' is essentially made of noises, structured noisily and disruptively, without offering a welcoming form, any recombination takes it further from artistically recognisable modes of talent, skill, etc.

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Post by melkobukva » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:10 am

Sometimes, I would like to kill the much too noisy Japanese by my own Noise. The effects of Japanese culture are too much noise everywhere. I want to make silence by my Noise. Maybe, that is a fascist way of using sound. -- Masami Akita

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Post by killing raven sun » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:03 am

jliat wrote:
Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:46 am
Absolutely do not pretend to know much about the "noise scene". I'm interesred in the genre for
various reasons and have made some noise pieces. Again noise doesn't require talent. But if someone wants to
agonise for days over a track, fine. Somone else used the term, not mine, polishing turds.

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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by jliat » Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:59 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:10 am
I want to make silence by my Noise. Maybe, that is a fascist way of using sound. -- Masami Akita

What do you think he means by this? At its most obvious - deafness?

And fascist, they say if you see God you die, maybe if you hear Merzbow you go deaf?

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Post by clemon » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:23 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:10 am
Sometimes, I would like to kill the much too noisy Japanese by my own Noise. The effects of Japanese culture are too much noise everywhere. I want to make silence by my Noise. Maybe, that is a fascist way of using sound. -- Masami Akita
hmm, not sure as i'm not really familiar with japanese culture much at all, but i'm guessing Masami is being a little self deprecating there..

american?
it's ok!

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Post by melkobukva » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:27 am

I think M.A. means that Merzbow is a way of conquering some sonic lebensraum for himself by outnoising the much too noisy untermenschen.
This involves deafness, in a LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU kind of way.
But it goes beyond that. There is also the domination aspect:
LALALA CANT HEAR YOU AND YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING BUT ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND HEED
This is why the "fascist" metaphor, and not "escapist" or "solipsist".

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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by clemon » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:32 am

are your american though?
LALALA CANT HEAR YOU AND YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING BUT ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND HEED
it's ok!

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Post by clemon » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:42 am

don't get me wrong, i like americans, just find that their use of irony is more socially antagonistic, while brit irony is more like "oh god why didn't the american realize i was being self deprecating / ironic"

in all honesty, and idk what language the quote was originally in, i'm guessing merzbow is playing on an ambiguity between I AM A NOISE FASCIST COOL and I AM A NOISE FASCIST WTF

those two don't need to be resolved, i'm just adding that i have the sense that he's confused by his "fascism" as much as he confuses with it :doh:
it's ok!

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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by jliat » Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:56 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:27 am
I think M.A. means that Merzbow is a way of conquering some sonic lebensraum for himself by outnoising the much too noisy untermenschen.
This involves deafness, in a LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU kind of way.
But it goes beyond that. There is also the domination aspect:
LALALA CANT HEAR YOU AND YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING BUT ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND HEED
This is why the "fascist" metaphor, and not "escapist" or "solipsist".

AKA Beethoven?

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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by melkobukva » Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:25 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:56 am
melkobukva wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:27 am
I think M.A. means that Merzbow is a way of conquering some sonic lebensraum for himself by outnoising the much too noisy untermenschen.
This involves deafness, in a LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU kind of way.
But it goes beyond that. There is also the domination aspect:
LALALA CANT HEAR YOU AND YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING BUT ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND HEED
This is why the "fascist" metaphor, and not "escapist" or "solipsist".

AKA Beethoven?
Pretty sure Beethoven had no desire to kill any Japanese.

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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by jliat » Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:30 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 6:25 am
jliat wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:56 am
melkobukva wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:27 am
I think M.A. means that Merzbow is a way of conquering some sonic lebensraum for himself by outnoising the much too noisy untermenschen.
This involves deafness, in a LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU kind of way.
But it goes beyond that. There is also the domination aspect:
LALALA CANT HEAR YOU AND YOU CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING BUT ME SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND HEED
This is why the "fascist" metaphor, and not "escapist" or "solipsist".

AKA Beethoven?
Pretty sure Beethoven had no desire to kill any Japanese.
It was on his list...


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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by clemon » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:04 am

OK who is being self deprecating, hands
it's ok!

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Re: who's the worst artist on this board??

Post by jliat » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:24 am

clemon wrote:
Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:04 am
OK who is being self deprecating, hands
This guy - obviously....
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