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Re: Harm- a thought experiment. (please ignore) Merzbow...sales pitch...

Post by clemon » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:35 am

Sleep Of Ages wrote:
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clemon wrote:
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some harms are insignificant. in an ideal world we'd be made of light and eat mana sent from the gods
Yes, we are balancing the cost of harms all the time, Medicine is based on that.
not just harm against harm, but harm against benefit.
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Post by Sleep Of Ages » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:41 am

Yeah.

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Post by clemon » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:53 am

Sleep Of Ages wrote:
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Yeah.
seriously, how are you finding new brazil? you work in government, or just a bureaucracy?

do you get it
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Post by xdugef » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:58 am

clemon wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:53 am
Sleep Of Ages wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:41 am
Yeah.
seriously, how are you finding new brazil? you work in government, or just a bureaucracy?

do you get it
But I should tell you that I think of you each night...

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Post by Sleep Of Ages » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:13 am

clemon wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:53 am
Sleep Of Ages wrote:
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Yeah.
seriously, how are you finding new brazil? you work in government, or just a bureaucracy?

do you get it
I just agreed with you, I don't wanna make out.

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Post by clemon » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:14 am

Sleep Of Ages wrote:
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I don't wanna make out.
:lmao:
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Post by jliat » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:22 am

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You seem not to know what a 'thought expoeriment' is...

Well Daric has proved he is too stupid to understand stuff, do you want to do the same? Medical intervention doesn't only involve cutting people up, anti biotics save lives... as does the antiseptics, blood transfusions and the Heimlich manoeuvre...
If you propose some stupid scenario, you get stupidity.
Only from people who don't know what a thought experiment is. Which I admit I was foolish to assume some here might know that, classically they sound stupid. Schrodinger's Cat, Maxwell's Demon, Hilbert's Hotel...ethics of fat man on railway...
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I'm not against vaccines and all that shit but almost every medical intevention is a form of attack one way or the other against the body, like antibiotics FFS, go google how they work. You are the one thinking about medicine as magic here. Or at least as math.
That's a poor thought expOeriment, you achieved nothing and convinced no one because of that, not because the peasants don't get it.
"almost every medical intevention is a form of attack one way or the other against the body" was my point, to which Daric took exception.

But sorry, i dont follow much of the above, but I'm certainly not saying medicine is magic or math.... anyway we seem not going to get anywhere with this, wish good luck in the new year... it should be interesting ...

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Post by clemon » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:24 am

more like meth, right?
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Post by xdugef » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:07 am

clemon wrote:
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more like meth, right?
I am sure you are not following.

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Post by Sleep Of Ages » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:29 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:22 am
Schrodinger's Cat, Maxwell's Demon
Yeah, you are MOS DEF on that level, disillusioned old man.
Those thought experiments work - can be discussed at least - because they are based on common sense concepts even if the scenario is fantastic. in yours, you get a realistic scenario and stuff it with your own misconceptions of how things work, it just don't make sense.
You just pull something out of your ass and throw it at the Misc noise board because you feel superior and us peasants will neve get. Do you get some satisfaction with that? What are you chasing? You seemed to be more interesting years ago when you weren't so desperate to be recognize as a genius by unknown people that like noises and nonsense. Are we the last stop for people who can't argue with normal functioning people? Have webecome that? Oh, shit...

jliat wrote:
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"almost every medical intevention is a form of attack one way or the other against the body" was my point, to which Daric took exception.
Well, I just read your first and second posts I guess, you are crazy if you think I'll read all of that nonsense that you two get so high on. But if you agree on that that's ok, I shouldn't be so trite on the lines above but now it's too late to edit and try to be nice. Still your first arguments were BS.
jliat wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:22 am
wish good luck in the new year... it should be interesting ...
You too, try to get out of this hole you are digging, it's not healthy for you.
Next year will be hell.

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Post by jliat » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:21 am

Sleep Of Ages wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:29 am

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Anyway - you've jumped in here having not read my post fully. I for one do not feel 'superior', others here have far more technical knowledge regarding building stuff, and post pictures. Don't see you making the same claims. I happen to have an interest in philosophy and theory, and i'm sorry for that, I shed tears about it every night. As for making noise I think it stupid to argue much in the way of excellence. Its one of its features. Anyone can do it.


But you just want to call names and slag off - over to Laura...


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Post by Sleep Of Ages » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:57 am

jliat wrote:
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Happy new year.

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