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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:09 am

so "far beyond'(exponentially more than just "One step beyond")
that you would never believe it so why waste time bothering explaining anything for you...
you are personally not important in the equation & interaction devolves into waste of time/energy
keep guessing and thinking you are debunking something or someone

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by melkobukva » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:29 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 2:42 am
'We are the product of technology and not the producers of technology.'
I've stumbled upon something in that vein not long ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/24/scie ... urope.html

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by jliat » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:35 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:09 am
so "far beyond'(exponentially more than just "One step beyond")
that you would never believe it so why waste time bothering explaining anything for you...
you are personally not important in the equation & interaction devolves into waste of time/energy
keep guessing and thinking you are debunking something or someone
I'm not debunking anything. You offered the idea that there was something "that is far beyond your limited comprehension skills"..
but cannot offer any examples.

Which begs the question - why make such a claim in the first place, if you are unable to back it up. I'm not saying this is, but it could be an empty boast. Whatever the case i'm not making any guesses. I just suspend judgement.

You claimed i lacked "mental ability for even comprehending.." which might be true - or an empty boast... take the former, you are presenting yourself as superior - a boast, take the latter and this is just mendacity. Either way you dont come out of this well - i think.

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by melkobukva » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:43 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:35 am
You offered the idea that there was something "that is far beyond your limited comprehension skills"..
but cannot offer any examples.
Sorry to interrupt, but if something is actually beyond your comprehension, then if somebody showed you an example of such a thing, you wouldn't comprehend it anyway, and this defeats the purpose of showing.

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:42 pm


this was once considered a "conspiracy theory" yet we were well aware WTF has been happening...
FISA warrants are rubber stamped joke
SnoopState has been in full effect in USA since 2001
that's when mass data collection started
Blackmail was main objective initially
controlling power node puppets

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by amishrobots » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:46 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:02 am
You can choose to bury you head in the sands of Ignorance
whilst getting raped in the ass
riding your bong into Oblivion
chasing being "cool"
fantasizing about some socialist utopia with freebies
I'm glad you prefer to be "fully aware" while getting ass raped; must be a comfort to think you're smarter than the rest, while you continue to make no more difference than any of us, and get to fully enjoy the sensation.
I've smoked pot exactly once in the last year. Call me out for being an alcoholic instead; at least that would be accurate.
I'll never be cool. I humbly submit that I have long ago learned the following: The sooner you accept that you will never be cool, and the fact that "cool" is a completely arbitrary construct of societal bullshit; holy grail of the pathetic, attempting to conform to a soft-serve vanilla point system of popular "rebellion", the cooler you will actually be, in reality. Perhaps related: I've never liked Cool Whip; its a sorry lame substitute for the real thing. Even Vanilla Ice is better than that!
The Public Library is a socialist utopia; you should try it some time.

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by amishrobots » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:56 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:38 am
that is far beyond your limited comprehension skills
plus it is already completed
with intended results obtained
& wasn't "easy"
Not so much "beyond our comprehension" as it is beyond the limits of our tolerance of ignorance.

Maybe you could illuminate our dim minds, and tell us what intended results you have obtained, and how you got there?

feel free to blow the half-dozen or so minds that are paying any attention to you on this massively popular noise forum...

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by amishrobots » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:57 pm

melkobukva wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:43 am
jliat wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:35 am
You offered the idea that there was something "that is far beyond your limited comprehension skills"..
but cannot offer any examples.
Sorry to interrupt, but if something is actually beyond your comprehension, then if somebody showed you an example of such a thing, you wouldn't comprehend it anyway, and this defeats the purpose of showing.
examples or stfu.

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by amishrobots » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:10 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:43 am
jliat wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:35 am
You offered the idea that there was something "that is far beyond your limited comprehension skills"..
but cannot offer any examples.
Sorry to interrupt, but if something is actually beyond your comprehension, then if somebody showed you an example of such a thing, you wouldn't comprehend it anyway, and this defeats the purpose of showing.
https://imgur.com/a/SLMaOB5

do you comprehend this image? No? then obviously I am smarter than you. I could try to explain it, but there would be no point, because obviously you are educated-stupid.

If you were smart like I am, you would see the obvious proof that the earth is a five-sided time cube.
But with your stupid minds, you are not ready for the power of solarbanite.
It's not worth my important time to explain it all to you, because you will never understand, and I have better things to do , like telling people on Noiseguide how dumb they are not to understand what I don't have time to show them, because Donald Trump has a natural instinct for science, and so do I.
Just trust me when I say that science is a hoax; because I have a natural instinct for it.
The Earth is flat, like your sister.

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by amishrobots » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:32 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:42 pm

this was once considered a "conspiracy theory" yet we were well aware WTF has been happening...
FISA warrants are rubber stamped joke
SnoopState has been in full effect in USA since 2001
that's when mass data collection started
Blackmail was main objective initially
controlling power node puppets
Aha! now we're actually talking about something important. Edward Snowden was hero. Chelsea Manning was a hero. Julian Assange is... well at least he's trying...

But wtf is Donald Trump doing about any of this? He's doing nothing. I certainly have not seen any news about him repealing the Patriot Act, nor removing Stingray technology from our local communities.

Trump is doing whatever the Establishment Republicans tell him to, because he is incompetent at best. Can't even run a school of business, without it going out of business.

The motherfucker kicks journalists out of the White House, and threatens to revoke the FCC license of TV stations that say anything against him. That is not democracy; that is tryannical dictatorism.

Bush enabled it, Obama continued it, and Trump is just giving it wings...

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by jliat » Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am

melkobukva wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:43 am
jliat wrote:
Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:35 am
You offered the idea that there was something "that is far beyond your limited comprehension skills"..
but cannot offer any examples.
Sorry to interrupt, but if something is actually beyond your comprehension, then if somebody showed you an example of such a thing, you wouldn't comprehend it anyway, and this defeats the purpose of showing.
If the purpose is to show it so that you might comprehend it, it would be defeated, but not if it was to show that i couldnt comprehend it.
So someone might refer to some mathematics, Hilbert space for instance, and i'd ask what it is? A complete inner-product space, which derives from vector spaces in which every Cauchy sequence in it converges. At the moment i do not comprehend this, but in theory it might be possible to do so. Or it might be beyond my capabilities. I doubt if i could climb Everest, certainly not without oxygen. And I could be made to have some understanding of my inability. And so when Rudy Rucker states in his book that in set theory work on the omega conjecture is at a crossroads, which he can barely understand, i'm confident that I cannot. Though philosophically such a confidence can never be for me certain.

I'm very interested in philosophy, and certain continental philosophy is notoriously difficult to comprehend. However one first may think it nonsense, given time one can make sense out of it.

But there is also 'mystical' knowledge, which not only is difficult to comprehend, is not achievable by the same rational methods.. One may doubt it to be true knowledge, i don't, but understand that given an example simple comprehension via reason is not possible. If Warlock is claiming such, then he could still demonstrate this. Even knowing a rational comprehension is impossible. But the question then is why make such a claim. "I can do something better than you", when asked what - refuse to reply.

Having an art background and working with science based colleagues it was often the case that artworks - such as a Picasso, or Duchamp's urinal would come under discussion. The comprehension of the Duchamp was a simple matter, but the "appreciation" of say The Weeping Woman, more difficult. That is it could be comprehended but the more important thing was the experience and appreciation of it. If one is interested in seeing art as different to science and mathematics that is.

So rather than write all this above, TLDR? I could simply say I have a comprehension higher than Warlock's. And I can even give proof. :doh:

PS. thanks for that link - i'll follow it up.

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:11 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am
But there is also 'mystical' knowledge, which not only is difficult to comprehend, is not achievable by the same rational methods.. One may doubt it to be true knowledge, i don't, but understand that given an example simple comprehension via reason is not possible. If Warlock is claiming such, then he could still demonstrate this. Even knowing a rational comprehension is impossible. But the question then is why make such a claim. "I can do something better than you", when asked what - refuse to reply.
mystical knowledge comes the same way as any knowledge, through perception

your observational powers have been shaped by societies needs, you must pay attention to the english way or risk being an outsider, what would happen if you said "picassa"? your credibility dashed, authority crushes you, so you avoid "wrong knowledge", just like a little doggy when it gets punished

but then you also avoid new knowledge, because doggy, thats why you are a doosh about the electric universe, because your masters want you that way

so no amount of discourse or explanation will help you if you dont want to understand

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:15 am

amishrobots wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:32 am
TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME
gawd damn, its like "Spawn of McDoosherson"

crawl back into your corner and eat another handful of opioids, sleep is your friend

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:33 am

ACCESS DENIED
you are not worth the time/energy
plus why take security risks for sake of ego on a noise forum

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Re: Attention Conspiracy Dorks:

Post by jliat » Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:42 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:33 am
ACCESS DENIED
you are not worth the time/energy
plus why take security risks for sake of ego on a noise forum
Access not required I have a comprehension higher than Warlock's. And I can even give proof.

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