Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:38 am

jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:29 am
There is - but our argument was about a theory predicting black holes - you said there was no such theory. There are.
i guess you missed how those theories have been falsified many times, there is no evidence for any black hole theory, none

jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:29 am
wat? slow down drunky, i was talking about the cheerleader that wrote the article, you somehow got it in your head that their opinion was some kind of scientific proof :roll:
How could i get the idea it was a proof, a computer simulation cant prove anything in real life. Do you know the difference between emulation and simulation?
oh wow, drinking hard tonight
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Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:29 am
I think the author was talking about a theory which predicts black holes... or concept, and not just opinion.

I mean a concept or theory can be right or wrong, but can an opinion? I think not. "a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"
um, look, its clear you are too drunk for this, maybe sleep soon

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by jliat » Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:30 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:38 am
jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:29 am
There is - but our argument was about a theory predicting black holes - you said there was no such theory. There are.
i guess you missed how those theories have been falsified many times, there is no evidence for any black hole theory, none
Yes I missed falsification, I did see you just claiming they were wrong, and stupid, which isn't falsification. Or is it falsification that because two cosmological theories disagree. But on the up side its good to see you now no longer make the false claim that there are no theories which support black holes. Now you might want to move on to "there is no evidence for any black hole theory, none" - and there is so you need to say "there is no evidence for any black hole theory, none for someone who will reject any evidence."

Just as many have said that there is no evidence for The Electric Universe - none. Which is why its in decline...
killing raven sun wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:38 am
jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:29 am
wat? slow down drunky, i was talking about the cheerleader that wrote the article, you somehow got it in your head that their opinion was some kind of scientific proof :roll:
How could i get the idea it was a proof, a computer simulation cant prove anything in real life. Do you know the difference between emulation and simulation?
oh wow, drinking hard tonight
jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:29 am
I think the author was talking about a theory which predicts black holes... or concept, and not just opinion.

I mean a concept or theory can be right or wrong, but can an opinion? I think not. "a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"
um, look, its clear you are too drunk for this, maybe sleep soon
So when you've figured the difference between a concept / theory and opinion - get back to me.

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:04 am

jliat wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 1:30 am
Yes I missed falsification, I did see you just claiming they were wrong, and stupid, which isn't falsification. Or is it falsification that because two cosmological theories disagree. But on the up side its good to see you now no longer make the false claim that there are no theories which support black holes. Now you might want to move on to "there is no evidence for any black hole theory, none" - and there is so you need to say "there is no evidence for any black hole theory, none for someone who will reject any evidence."

Just as many have said that there is no evidence for The Electric Universe - none. Which is why its in decline...

So when you've figured the difference between a concept / theory and opinion - get back to me.
still drunk :lol:

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by xdugef » Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:53 am

clemon wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:38 am
i've unwrapped like uhh loads of presents and the whole time you two were fighting not that kind of boxing day :roll: :roll:
Which question would you like me to answer of yours.

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:46 pm

jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:49 am
the article continues
While we don’t have a full and final picture yet, researchers are making steady, if slow, progress in understanding the relationship between giant black holes and their host galaxies.
opinion
In a recent paper, scientists used advanced computer simulations to try to examine that full picture, including as much of the detailed physics as possible.....
they tried, but no report of the findings
It’s a tough problem to study, but a fascinating one, since by pinning down the relationship between galaxies and their black holes, as communicated through the flows and disruptions of cool gas, we can try to unlock the story of galaxy evolution itself..
opinion
jliat wrote:
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So you are using an article which as a given has "progress in understanding the relationship between giant black holes and their host galaxies." to prove they dont exist, by virtue of a computer model. OMG.
do you see where you fucked up yet? you seem to think her opinion of black holes is science, you call it "a given" but its just her opinion of how she thinks things are going

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Post by jliat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:45 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:46 pm
jliat wrote:
Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:49 am
So you are using an article which as a given has "progress in understanding the relationship between giant black holes and their host galaxies." to prove they dont exist, by virtue of a computer model. OMG.
do you see where you fucked up yet? you seem to think her opinion of black holes is science, you call it "a given" but its just her opinion of how she thinks things are going

If anyone fucked up its you - you think all cosomology, (evolution theoiry et al) is opinion, but cant or wont say what the difference is between that and a theory... and for your opinion on this you cite from some magazine interview which you think is mere opinion. But fail to show how? You then fail to see that a computer simulation is just that. Not the real thing.


Black holes are theoretical objects for which there is now observational evidence. They are not opinion, because opinions cant be proven wrong.

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:51 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:45 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:46 pm
do you see where you fucked up yet?

If anyone fucked up its you - you think all cosomology, (evolution theoiry et al) is opinion, but cant or wont say what the difference is between that and a theory... and for your opinion on this you cite from some magazine interview which you think is mere opinion. But fail to show how? You then fail to see that a computer simulation is just that. Not the real thing.


Black holes are theoretical objects for which there is now observational evidence. They are not opinion, because opinions cant be proven wrong.
wow, you are drunk already? so your answer is no, you dont understand how you fucked up

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by jliat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:03 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:51 am
jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 1:45 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:46 pm
do you see where you fucked up yet?

If anyone fucked up its you - you think all cosomology, (evolution theoiry et al) is opinion, but cant or wont say what the difference is between that and a theory... and for your opinion on this you cite from some magazine interview which you think is mere opinion. But fail to show how? You then fail to see that a computer simulation is just that. Not the real thing.


Black holes are theoretical objects for which there is now observational evidence. They are not opinion, because opinions cant be proven wrong.
wow, you are drunk already? so your answer is no, you dont understand how you fucked up
I think as long as you answer your own questions you are OK. Lets see - mind control in the USA in the 1970s - puts you in the frame. So how do you know your mind is not programmned by military zionists who want to take over the world?

- perhaps the admission of doubt?

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:07 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:03 am
I think as long as you answer your own questions you are OK. Lets see - mind control in the USA in the 1970s - puts you in the frame. So how do you know your mind is not programmned by military zionists who want to take over the world?

- perhaps the admission of doubt?
:lol: more gibberish, you must have started early today :lol:

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by jliat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:20 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:03 am
I think as long as you answer your own questions you are OK. Lets see - mind control in the USA in the 1970s - puts you in the frame. So how do you know your mind is not programmned by military zionists who want to take over the world?

- perhaps the admission of doubt?
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:07 am
:lol: more gibberish, you must have started early today :lol:
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I'm not the person citing someone who claims Paul Simon is a mind controlled product of the US military part of a Zionist conspiracy of world domination.

You need sleep. (and perhaps some lessons in philosophy) :lol:

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:25 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:20 am
jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:03 am
I think as long as you answer your own questions you are OK. Lets see - mind control in the USA in the 1970s - puts you in the frame. So how do you know your mind is not programmned by military zionists who want to take over the world?

- perhaps the admission of doubt?
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:07 am
:lol: more gibberish, you must have started early today :lol:
time.jpg
I'm not the person citing someone who claims Paul Simon is a mind controlled product of the US military part of a Zionist conspiracy of world domination.

You need sleep. (and perhaps some lessons in philosophy) :lol:
damn man, you really should not drunk post, and if you try and say you arent drinking then you have no excuse for being so stupid :lol:

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by jliat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:35 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:25 am

damn man, you really should not drunk post, and if you try and say you arent drinking then you have no excuse for being so stupid :lol:
That sentence is kinda badly formed - they need to re program. US military - what can you do... farm it out to India!


Anyway - you are certainly are working day and night to fuck up the board... these zionists are real bad...

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:38 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:35 am
Anyway - you are certainly are working day and night to fuck up the board... these zionists are real bad...
yeah, by adding interesting and conversation starting content to the site i am fucking it up :roll:

maybe i should get drunk and start arguements i cant follow and just generally be a pest, like you?

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by jliat » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:48 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:38 am
jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:35 am
Anyway - you are certainly are working day and night to fuck up the board... these zionists are real bad...
yeah, by adding interesting and conversation starting content to the site i am fucking it up :roll:
LAUGHTER... you've said that was your aim many times..
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:38 am
maybe i should get drunk and start arguements i cant follow and just generally be a pest, like you?
ARGUEMENTS that damed bug!

I dont start many arguments, i watch the videos you post, and point out the contradictions. You fumble with replies then tell me to email the makers of the videos - as i suppose you cant follow them...

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Re: Electric Universe hoax - its end. Part 3.

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:54 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:48 am
I dont start many arguments, i watch the videos you post, and point out the contradictions.
:lol: you cant even follow your own supposed logic in your own threads, what makes you think you can understand EU?

oh thats right, you have courage in a bottle :lol:

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