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vaccines cause harm

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:37 am
by killing raven sun
contrary to the medical oath "do no harm" doctors regularly harm people with vaccines, no vaccine has ever provided immunity from anything, they only do damage, special secretive courts are set up in america to quietly deal with the victims, do your research before believing what stupid doctors tell you

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:48 am
by WhiteWarlock
Are you saying that shooting up Mercury(Thimerosal Organomercurial) is unhealthy or something???
Trust your Doctor!
dey needz dat fat cash from da reps for spikin yo az
snakes on sticks http://drblayney.com/Asclepius.html
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Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:03 am
by killing raven sun
my dad went to the doctor to ask about his bum leg, had been hurting and keeping him from walking right, while they were talking about his leg she jabbed a needle into him, he had seen her preparing a shot but she never mentioned it, he asked what she just shot him up with, steroids, like that fixes everything, then she started asking about vaccines and which ones he needed

that was a while back, his leg never got better

but i got a funny quip out of it, "you injected me with what?"

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:11 am
by WhiteWarlock
reps forced out the non compliant old timer doctors with ethics who actually cared about their patients
don't ever trust the medical Industry
they fund MSM propaganda machine

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:24 am
by WhiteWarlock
MSM GOV Prostitutes @CNN explain Mercury in Vaccines is GOOD!

Medical Industry Propaganda

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:31 am
by WhiteWarlock

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:36 pm
by killing raven sun
accute flaccid myelitis back in the news, the language dancing around polio makes george orwell proud
In late summer of 2014, enterovirus D-68 started sending kids struggling to breathe to emergency rooms around the country. News reports called it a rare, cold-causing virus, a danger to children with asthma.

But then an 11-year-old boy in Texas with a seemingly normal fever lost the ability to walk and move his right arm.

A 17-year-old girl in Santa Barbara experienced severe neck pain at her birthday party and ended up in the hospital, paralyzed from the neck down.

In Oregon, a 13-year-old boy's diaphragm stopped working, so he needed a ventilator to breathe. He was completely paralyzed, able only to wiggle his toes and his right hand.

Whatever was happening to these children was "pretty much, literally, exactly, what polio did," said Dr. Jean-Baptiste Le Pichon, a child neurologist who treated four such patients in 2014 at Children's Mercy Hospital in Kansas City, Mo.

Glaser watched from California as the numbers of paralyzed kids grew. She became horrified that her theory about enterovirus D-68 might be correct.

That October, Van Haren spoke at a national meeting of child neurologists. He asked 300 specialists how many of them had seen these kinds of paralysis cases in the past few months.

"More than half the hands in the room went up," he recalled.

Doctors coined a name for the phenomenon: acute flaccid myelitis. "Acute flaccid" for the sudden and total paralysis and "myelitis" for an injury to part of the spinal cord involved in muscle movement, called the gray matter.

Between August 2014 and January 2015, 120 children in 34 states were diagnosed with acute flaccid myelitis, according to federal health officials. The median patient age was 7.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:33 pm
by jliat
killing raven sun wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:36 pm
accute flaccid myelitis back in the news, the language dancing around polio makes george orwell proud
No he would not - he actually thought good of humanity...



Between August 2014 and January 2015, 120 children in 34 states were diagnosed with acute flaccid myelitis, according to federal health officials. The median patient age was 7.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html



On Saturday, June 17, 1916, an official announcement of the existence of an epidemic polio infection was made in Brooklyn, New York. That year, there were over 27,000 cases and more than 6,000 deaths due to polio in the United States, with over 2,000 deaths in New York City alone...In the epidemic of 1949, 2,720 deaths from the disease occurred in the United States and 42,173 cases were reported and Canada and the United Kingdom were also affected... In the United States, the 1952 polio epidemic was the worst outbreak in the nation's history, and is credited with heightening parents’ fears of the disease and focusing public awareness on the need for a vaccine.[23] Of the 57,628 cases reported that year 3,145 died and 21,269 were left with mild to disabling paralysis...


....Polio survivors are one of the largest disabled groups in the world. The World Health Organization estimates that there are 10 to 20 million polio survivors worldwide.[69] In 1977, the National Health Interview Survey reported that there were 254,000 people living in the United States who had been paralyzed by polio.[70] According to local polio support groups and doctors, some 40,000 polio survivors with varying degrees of paralysis live in Germany, 30,000 in Japan, 24,000 in France, 16,000 in Australia, 12,000 in Canada and 12,000 in the United Kingdom.
Beecher and Todd estimated that the annual number of anesthesia-related deaths in the United States was over 5100,
Maybe we should ban anesthesia.... :doh: oh and cars and guns...

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:12 am
by killing raven sun
jliat wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:33 pm
Maybe we should ban anesthesia.... :doh: oh and cars and guns...
how exactly does this relate to vaccines or polio?

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:49 am
by killing raven sun
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/07/ ... radication
The outbreak also underscores the latest complication on the bumpy road toward polio eradication. It is caused not by the wild virus hanging on by a thread in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and perhaps Nigeria, but by a rare mutant derived from the weakened live virus in the oral polio vaccine (OPV), which has regained its neurovirulence and the ability to spread. As OPV campaigns have driven the wild virus to near-extinction, these circulating vaccine-derived polioviruses (cVDPVs) have emerged as the greatest threat to polio eradication. If the outbreaks are not stopped quickly, polio scientists warn, they could spiral out of control, setting eradication efforts back years.

“There is an urgency” to stopping these vaccine-derived outbreaks, says epidemiologist Nicholas Grassly of Imperial College London. “It is so much more important than controlling the wild virus.”

Safe and effective, OPV has long been the workhorse of the eradication effort. But a feature that makes the vaccine so powerful can also be a serious downside. For a short time after vaccination, the weakened live virus can spread from person to person, boosting immunity even in those who didn’t receive the polio drops. But in rare instances, in poor countries such as the DRC where many children have not been vaccinated, the virus can continue circulating for years, accumulating mutations until it reverts to its dangerous form. The vast majority of cVDPVs are caused by serotype 2, one of three variants of the virus.

Almost as soon as cVDPVs were discovered in 2000, the World Health Assembly in Geneva declared that all use of OPV must stop when the wild virus was gone. In 2016, with the threat of cVDPVs looming larger—they now cause more cases of paralysis than the wild virus—GPEI decided waiting was no longer an option. By then, poliovirus type 2 had been eradicated in the wild, which meant that every type 2 virus originated from the vaccine itself. In April of that year, the 155 countries still using the trivalent vaccine, which targets all three polio variants, replaced it with a bivalent vaccine with the type 2 component removed. No one knew exactly how this experiment would play out. It was clear, however, that for a few years some type 2 outbreaks would still occur—either those that had started before “the switch,” as it is called, but had not been detected or those caused by the last use of trivalent OPV.

In a virological catch 22, the only way to stop type 2 outbreaks is with a version of the same vaccine that gave rise to them in the first place—somehow without seeding another one. The virus in the inactivated polio vaccine cannot revert, but it simply does not pack enough punch to stop an outbreak.
from above...
the virus can continue circulating for years, accumulating mutations until it reverts to its dangerous form...

The virus in the inactivated polio vaccine cannot revert
:roll:

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:50 am
by jliat
killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:12 am
jliat wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:33 pm
Maybe we should ban anesthesia.... :doh: oh and cars and guns...
how exactly does this relate to vaccines or polio?
killing raven sun wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 5:37 am
contrary to the medical oath "do no harm" doctors regularly harm people with vaccines,
You made the mistake "do no harm" - which would mean doctors would never use any procedure or drug which might. Most medical interventions are potentially harmful, and some definitely, amputation for instance. anaesthesia carries a risk... etc.

Just as some people have food allergies - you or one might then argue food is harmful and shouldn't be taken.

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:13 am
by killing raven sun
jliat wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:50 am
You made the mistake "do no harm" - which would mean doctors would never use any procedure or drug which might. Most medical interventions are potentially harmful, and some definitely, amputation for instance. anaesthesia carries a risk... etc.

Just as some people have food allergies - you or one might then argue food is harmful and shouldn't be taken.
how exactly does this relate to vaccines or polio?



btw...
Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free.

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:33 am
by jliat
killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:13 am
jliat wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:50 am
You made the mistake "do no harm" - which would mean doctors would never use any procedure or drug which might. Most medical interventions are potentially harmful, and some definitely, amputation for instance. anaesthesia carries a risk... etc.

Just as some people have food allergies - you or one might then argue food is harmful and shouldn't be taken.
how exactly does this relate to vaccines or polio?
It relates in the way your opening post stated - "contrary to the medical oath "do no harm" doctors regularly harm people with vaccines"
you deleted it? Your next part makes the oath more clear.
killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:13 am
btw...
Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free.
Intentional wrong doing and harm. If someone has gangrene a doctor might perform an amputation - which is harmful. The key word is 'intent'. In the case of gangrene to "help the sick" requires doing harm. Otherwise letting them die... Use of induced comas , or in the very difficult case of Siamese twins harm is done. In latter effectively killing one twin to save the other, where otherwise both would die....

There are many other examples.

If its the doctors intention to do harm by vaccination - that would be wrong according to the oath.

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:16 am
by killing raven sun
jliat wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:33 am
If its the doctors intention to do harm by vaccination - that would be wrong according to the oath.
if they do harm in pursuit of healing they are not doctors

my next reply to you will be all insults if you arent on topic, if you want to argue incoherently go somewhere else

Re: vaccines cause harm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:44 pm
by jliat
killing raven sun wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:16 am
jliat wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:33 am
If its the doctors intention to do harm by vaccination - that would be wrong according to the oath.
if they do harm in pursuit of healing they are not doctors

my next reply to you will be all insults if you arent on topic, if you want to argue incoherently go somewhere else
Most Doctors are not doctors, not having a Phd. Surgeons are not also - called Mr after their origin as barbers. Causing harm is an inevitable possibility of any action. Those involved in the attempt to rid the world of Polio are in the main not Doctors anyway.

Those like yourself as you say resort to harm to inflict your ego on others, which many would think evil or deranged. That's why now you threaten resorting to insults. Places you in the same moral camp as the Taliban!.

I'm on topic - vaccination - re polio. Those opposed which to inflict massive suffering on the population of the world by not preventing the disease, especially amongst the poor, in your case by lies and insults, others simply murder. So insult away.

If you think reducing Polio from a third of a million a year to just over a hundred a bad thing - yep there is no arguing with you.

A global effort to eradicate polio began in 1988, led by the World Health Organization, UNICEF, and The Rotary Foundation. These efforts have reduced the number of annual diagnosed cases by 99.9 percent; from an estimated 350,000 cases in 1988 to a low of 483 cases in 2001, after which it remained at a level of about 1,000 – 2000 cases per year for a number of years. In 2015, cases decreased to 98 and further decreased in 2016 to 37 wild cases and 5 circulating vaccine-derived cases, but increased in 2017 to 22 wild cases and 91 circulating vaccine-derived cases.....

In 2003 in northern Nigeria—a country which at that time was considered provisionally polio free—a fatwa was issued declaring that the polio vaccine was designed to render children sterile. Subsequently, polio reappeared in Nigeria and spread from there to several other countries. In 2013, nine health workers administering polio vaccine were targeted and killed by gunmen on motorcycles in Kano....

In Pakistan there were 53 cases in 2015, the highest number for any country... Vaccination in Pakistan is hindered by conflict and organizational problems. The militant Pakistani Taliban claims vaccination is a Western plot to sterilise local children. 66 vaccinators were killed in 2013 and 2014