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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by jliat » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:20 am

A Navya driverless shuttle is operating in downtown Las Vegas. The city of Las Vegas and Keolis initially partnered on a short term deployment in January 2017, which has been followed by a year-long pilot sponsored by AAA of Northern California, Nevada & Utah for a 0.6 mile loop involving eight intersections and connected infrastructure. On November 8, 2017 the shuttle was involved in a minor incident when it was grazed by a delivery truck. The human driver was found to be at fault. As of May 2018, 25,000 passengers had ridden the AAA Self-Driving Shuttle.

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by jliat » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:31 am

BMW
Fully autonomous cars by: 2021
Ford
Fully autonomous cars by: 2021
Honda
Fully autonomous cars by: 2025
Hyundai
Fully autonomous cars by: 2021
Kia
Fully autonomous cars by: 2021
PSA (Peugeot, Citroen, DS)
Fully autonomous cars by: 2021
Renault-Nissan Alliance
Fully autonomous cars by: 2020
Toyota
Fully autonomous cars by: 2020 (motorway and few years later for urban environments)
Volvo
Fully autonomous cars by: 2021 (testing only)

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by WhiteWarlock » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:42 am

humans learning to bypass/disable & hack the Automatic driving auto computer=2021

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by WhiteWarlock » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:46 am

Are they all WIFI?
hmmm
that will get bloody

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by WhiteWarlock » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:48 am

doesn't matter to me
already prefer autos
that don't have built in computers
for a multitude of logical reasons

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by jliat » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:52 am

Too Late!
From the beginnings of their development in the early nineteenth century, railways inspired deep anxieties and provoked strong opposition. The common factor in much anti-railway discourse whether couched in environmental, medical or social terms – was a perception of railways as fundamentally unnatural, as intrinsically at odds with the established order embodied in the rural landscape, the social structure of traditional communities, and the constitution of the human mind and body.
It was claimed that trains would blight crops with their smoke and terrify livestock with their noise, that people would asphyxiate if carried at speeds of more than twenty miles per hour, and that hundreds would yearly die beneath locomotive wheels or in fires and boiler explosions. Many saw the railway as a threat to the social order, allowing the lower classes to travel ton freely, weakening moral standards and dissolving the traditional bonds of community: John Ruskin, campaigning to exclude railways from the lake District, warned in 1875 of 'the certainty ... of the deterioration of moral character in the inhabitants of every district penetrated by the railway'.

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by timdrage » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:53 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:05 am
will never happen, driving requires acumen which computers cannot display, even the best drivers have accidents but ai will never exceed at driving skill
skill has nothing do with it, driverless cars will go mainstream if they become non-terrible enough that it's profitable for the car companies, insurance companies and governments to get the ad agencies to override people's emotional angst about hypothetical trolly-car-problems.

Everyone drives human cars even thought they kill ridiculous numbers of people every day, why should robots be any different?

Anywayy don't know why you expect any kind of sane, honest or pro-human decisions from these organisations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswage ... ns_scandal

http://uk.businessinsider.com/elon-musk ... ory-2018-8

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by WhiteWarlock » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:18 am

it's actually well documented part of "Agenda 21" anyways
for most people driving their own car=freedom
merely stating the basics

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by killing raven sun » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:39 am

holy shit, its tim that rescues the engloids with cogent response, who would have thought?
timdrage wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:53 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:05 am
will never happen, driving requires acumen which computers cannot display, even the best drivers have accidents but ai will never exceed at driving skill
skill has nothing do with it, driverless cars will go mainstream if they become non-terrible enough that it's profitable for the car companies, insurance companies and governments to get the ad agencies to override people's emotional angst about hypothetical trolly-car-problems.
ah yes, to the root, if we can bernays the hell out of it we can sell it, every housewife in america is afraid to be without a can of premium artist shit in the pantry, i just sew the patches on my clothes so everyone knows all the time, thats why i got the SONY tat on my forehead, i mean theres other brands but i gotta represent, SONY 4 LYFE!
timdrage wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:53 am
Everyone drives human cars even thought they kill ridiculous numbers of people every day, why should robots be any different?
ok this is deep so... humans want to kill each other, they dont want a robot to do it, wheres the fun in not even knowing that an enemy has been snuffed? we need to be part of the murder, thats why the prevailing power is a death cult, the one who worships a dying/dead guy nailed to wood, this is their hope for all of humanity, and so they infect the world with good/evil delerium which turns others into killers, worked on the buddhists, and now the muzzies who wage jihad are slaves to death, and of course we have plenty of other murderous organizations, such as the AMA and the NHS
timdrage wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:53 am
Anywayy don't know why you expect any kind of sane, honest or pro-human decisions from these organisations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswage ... ns_scandal

http://uk.businessinsider.com/elon-musk ... ory-2018-8
ok the vw thing is irrelevant, its a business thing so yeah its a human benefit, dude sent his daughter to a nicer university, cant be arsed about the miniscule amount of pollution coming from personal vehicles, if the angle is somehow AGW, then i will simply lol in your face

and as for elon, he is an extrordinary dork, hes no bill gates, his time is over soon

as for this being pro human issue, thats irrelevant also, transportation is freedom, people never give up freedom easily, its a trust issue to have free movement in society, less control of personal space and destination breeds hopelessness and paranoia, it becomes a form of solitary confinement which naturally has to be rebelled against, either physically or mentally, often both, the herding of the worlds populations into tight spaces will not end well, it already simmers

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by killing raven sun » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:18 am
it's actually well documented part of "Agenda 21" anyways
for most people driving their own car=freedom
merely stating the basics
exactly, i know a lot of stupid people dont believe in agenda 21 but there is quite a bit to know about it

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:18 am

You won’t be able to hail a self-driving Lyft or Autonom Cab in your city anytime soon. Aptiv user experience designer Nandita Mangal, who guided my Lyft carpool, said that self-driving cabs will most likely start rolling out in 2030.

That seems like a long time to wait, but there’s too much at stake to rush autonomous cars onto the road. The future may be just around the corner in some respects, but the demos I saw at CES prove there’s still a ways to go.
2030? :lol: sounds like the same timeline as fusion power, always a few decades away

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by timdrage » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:10 am

around the same time as desktop linux and bitcoin as a world currency :D

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by jliat » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:50 am

… and Behringer's $200 Arp 2600 clone...

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Re: self-crashing cars

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:56 am

my Arp Avatar will be fully functional & modular before then :P

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