the pyramid: stairway to heaven

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by WhiteWarlock » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am

jliat wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:18 am
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:05 am
Have you ever considered that some people may have/use pre internet physical product Distro networks?
Bandcamp has sort of made joke of real releases IMO
since anyone can start account calling anything an official release
not that there is anything wrong with people doing that for promo & ease
from another school
plus there is sense of accomplishment when complete "physical releases"
that you can't get making "virtual releases"
I'd agree with this - are you familiar with Peter King? Great Guy and really nice 'product' - each hand cut.

http://peterkinglathecutrecords.co.nz/

Quite reasonable prices for small runs - but he can take ages to deliver - but 100% IMO.

Been aware of Peter King for Looooooooooonnngggg time...
have heard some mixed feedback on his quality(frequency range issues) at times
Thanks for reminder
Eye need getting serious about split with "some band" in Hamilton NZ
he has used Peter King for multiple releases over the years
figure that would probably be best strategy for doing split 7" with them
since they are semi-local with Peter in NZ & have well founded rapport
sort of ironic actually that you even mentioned him today

(BTW the Czech plant http://www.gzvinyl.com/ is getting fucking seriously expensive anymore)
anywhere you go it tends being long wait time
some worse than other so don't expect instant gratification
unless you can crank out some demo tapes long before getting vinyl from plant

~shrug~
not really something for people obsessed with instant gratification
used to experiment making records using old "Rek-o-cut" that Carbon had way back in the day
she would use modified plastic picnic plates as flexi disks
those old machines are extremely rare/obscure anymore
Eye have been daydreaming recently about making vinyl lathe/cutter system in the shop
Image
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Presto-Model-C ... SwcVxbcJ2N
always keep an eye open for old Presto & Rek-o-cut machines on ebay

you can also check these guys in Arizona http://piaptk.limitedrun.com/
https://piaptk-shop.myshopify.com/colle ... athe-parts
here is another good list of places for vinyl https://vinyl-pressing-plants.com/manuf ... e-cutting/

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by jliat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:02 pm

killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:10 am
jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:52 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:06 am
fucking moron
Yea - you make noise releases but dont release them. If that is you do? :chin:
fucking moron
yes - if you think you are its OK.

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by jliat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:07 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am

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My King disks were always fine....and yes used GZ when they were commie, i think they were "aquired" by some US firm.

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:26 pm

jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:02 pm
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:10 am
jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:52 am
Yea - you make noise releases but dont release them. If that is you do? :chin:
fucking moron
yes - if you think you are its OK.
durr hurr, captain dipshit are clever

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:38 pm

can you remember this far back james?

https://wastedbaby.bandcamp.com/

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by jliat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 pm

killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:38 pm
can you remember this far back james?

https://wastedbaby.bandcamp.com/
I dont remember this piece. Are you saying its one of yours?

edit: Actually I guess it is - Grants Pass... OK

Your improvisation and distorted vocals, reverb.. give the piece (silences in the other) obviously? - make the pieces expressive.
So more easy to see a 'musicality'. Which isn't bad. And the kind of catharsis a powerful and significant theme in art...

The initial 'difficulty' i had with certain noise was the denial of expression and musicality.

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by killing raven sun » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:44 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 pm
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:38 pm
can you remember this far back james?
I dont remember this piece. Are you saying its one of yours?

edit: Actually I guess it is - Grants Pass... OK
the slide into dementia illustrated

you are like this on every subject james

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:55 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:44 am
jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 pm
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:38 pm
can you remember this far back james?
I dont remember this piece. Are you saying its one of yours?

edit: Actually I guess it is - Grants Pass... OK
the slide into dementia illustrated

you are like this on every subject james
~doh!~
:roll:

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by jliat » Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:02 am

Your improvisation and distorted vocals, reverb.. give the piece (silences in the other) obviously? - make the pieces expressive.
So more easy to see a 'musicality'. Which isn't bad. And the kind of catharsis a powerful and significant theme in art...


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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by killing raven sun » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:26 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 pm
Your improvisation and distorted vocals, reverb.. give the piece (silences in the other) obviously? - make the pieces expressive.
So more easy to see a 'musicality'. Which isn't bad. And the kind of catharsis a powerful and significant theme in art...
jliat wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:02 am
Your improvisation and distorted vocals, reverb.. give the piece (silences in the other) obviously? - make the pieces expressive.
So more easy to see a 'musicality'. Which isn't bad. And the kind of catharsis a powerful and significant theme in art...
hey thats great clem, you go away now and if i want to talk to you again i will call your mum and let her know

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:36 pm

this place is supposed to be a creative resource in theory
there used to be a place that was awesome for networking
"Troniks"
RRRon seems to have committed "Seppuku"over @"Manics"

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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by jliat » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:25 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:21 pm

The Third Man has infamous error in script
& that is it...
Cuckoo clocks origin is in the "Back Forest" according to legend.... Saxony... Germania
have that movie on VHS tape somewhere around here.. "We will sell no wine before it's time!"



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Re: the pyramid: stairway to heaven

Post by jliat » Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:53 pm

jliat wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:54 pm
killing raven sun wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:38 pm
can you remember this far back james?

https://wastedbaby.bandcamp.com/
I dont remember this piece. Are you saying its one of yours?

edit: Actually I guess it is - Grants Pass... OK

Your improvisation and distorted vocals, reverb.. give the piece (silences in the other) obviously? - make the pieces expressive.
So more easy to see a 'musicality'. Which isn't bad. And the kind of catharsis a powerful and significant theme in art...

The initial 'difficulty' i had with certain noise was the denial of expression and musicality.
Though nothing from 2013 on, and no physical releases just two 'free' bandcamps, nothing using the wastedbaby on discogs, hardly then an indication of any serious commitment to noise or anything.

As I've said before the 'originality' of noise has been replaced by more 'musical', 'expressive' and even 'therapeutic' purposes. All the original moves away from those, and away from skill replaced by such. It might be more the case now of the impossibility of noise as it was in its origins.

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