Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by melkobukva » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:23 am

Why do you think that nothing that can't be sold or franchised can be a brand?
wiki wrote: A brand is a name, term, design, symbol, or other feature that distinguishes an organization or product from its rivals in the eyes of the customer. Brands are used in business, marketing, and advertising.
A name, term, design, symbol, or other feature that distinguishes an organization or product from its rivals in the eyes of the customer doesn't necessarily have to be transferable to new owners. In other words, Uncle Ben can't transfer his sauce to Colonel Sanders, because once Sanders starts cooking it instead of Ben, it will become Colonel's sauce, not Uncle Ben's.

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by jliat » Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:58 pm

melkobukva wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:23 am
Why do you think that nothing that can't be sold or franchised can be a brand?
wiki wrote: A brand is a name, term, design, symbol, or other feature that distinguishes an organization or product from its rivals in the eyes of the customer. Brands are used in business, marketing, and advertising.
A name, term, design, symbol, or other feature that distinguishes an organization or product from its rivals in the eyes of the customer doesn't necessarily have to be transferable to new owners. In other words, Uncle Ben can't transfer his sauce to Colonel Sanders, because once Sanders starts cooking it instead of Ben, it will become Colonel's sauce, not Uncle Ben's.
I'm at a loss here, you can sell brands, not people's identity's ..

In music there are people's identity's as in art. Picasso is not a 'brand'.
So you have Cream - Clapton, Baker, Bruce. Or ELP, CSNY... not brands - persons.


Brands can and are sold. Band names as of yet cant. FFS if you could sell the identity of 'Picasso' it would be worth billions.

People buy brands .. Channel Hugo Boss ... and these brands can be sold. But with art and to lesser extent pop/rock (60s 70s) nope.

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by melkobukva » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:49 pm

But what about counterfeit Picasso?

I am yet again the asshole who derailed other people's thread :doh:
Apologies to everyone who wanted to discuss censorship in China.
Let's move this elsewhere.
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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by jliat » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:31 pm

melkobukva wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:49 pm
But what about counterfeit Picasso?
The story goes something like this.

Picasso was shown a painting which was thought not to be a genuine Picasso.

He was asked. "Is this your work?"

He replied. "How much did you pay for it?"

Reply. "$2,000,000.00"

Picasso. "I that case it's genuine!"

I think we are done here? Unless you want to form a tribute band... Merz-bro :chin: (we all get on so well here!)

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:26 pm

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The EU's plans to modernize copyright law in Europe are moving forward, including the controversial Article 13. While supporters and opponents remain diametrically opposed, we take a look ahead. If Article 13 is implemented, will large websites block European visitors fearing potential liability for pirated content?

Earlier this year there was a massive uproar, bordering on full-blown panic, about Europe’s new privacy regulations.

The GDPR introduced thorough data protections for Europeans, which applies to all sites and services that serve European users.

Suddenly, tens of thousands of websites around the globe had to make sure that they weren’t crossing any lines with their data collection policies. As a result, people received a flurry of emails asking them to ‘update’ their email subscriptions, or agree to new terms.

While the mass hysteria has faded now, the fallout is still noticeable. The good news is that Europeans have regained some of their privacy online, but in some cases, this comes at an unexpected cost.

Several non-EU based websites and publications responded to the GDPR by simply blocking all EU visitors. And, after several months have passed, these blockades are still in place.

Europeans who try to access newspapers such as the NY Daily News or the Dallas Morning News are not getting in, and USA Today redirect them to a separate portal that offers a “European Experience.”

Even Unroll.me, which offers people a handy tool to unsubscribe from mailing lists, is off limits.

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No entry for EU visitors

When stumbling upon one of these GDPR blocks this week, it raised a question. What will happen if the EU decides to implement Article 13 of the proposed new copyright law next year?

Article 13, also known as the ‘upload filter’ proposal, will require many large Internet platforms to make licensing deals with rightsholders, or implement measures to block pirated content on their servers.

These requirements are not limited to European companies. They will affect all larger websites and services worldwide that deal with user-uploaded content and are available in the EU.

“Copyright law, including the current version of Article 13, if passed, applies to all websites visible in the EU, so foreign ones may decide to geoblock because of this, yes,” the office of Pirate Party MEP Julia Reda informs us.

While it will be easier to hold European companies responsible in court, its scope is similar to the GDPR, which means that it will likely cause some uncertainty among foreign sites as well.

YouTube CEO Susan Wojcick, for one, appears to be pretty concerned as we highlighted earlier this week.

“The proposal could force platforms, like YouTube, to allow only content from a small number of large companies. It would be too risky for platforms to host content from smaller original content creators, because the platforms would now be directly liable for that content,” she explained.

While it seems unlikely that YouTube would block the entire service for Europeans, especially because it already has some pretty advanced upload filters, Article 13 might spook other services enough to start geo-blocking. Especially if Europeans are a minority on the platform.

This may sound like unrealistic fearmongering to some, but is it really, if you look at all those sites and publications that still have their GDPR blocks up after months?

This type of self-censorship is not new either. Previously we have seen that several YouTube-ripping sites voluntarily blocked US and UK visitors, fearing legal repercussions from local rightsholders.

If Article 13 does indeed result in geoblocking efforts, it will ironically restrict access to content, much like the GDPR is restricting access to some information and services.

One significant difference compared to the GDRP is that, under the latest text, Article 13 will not apply to “small” sites and services. This means that services with less than 50 employees and a balance sheet not exceeding 10 million in annual turnover are excluded.

At the moment various EU bodies are negotiating the final draft of the proposal, which will make clear what’s at stake here.
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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by killing raven sun » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:38 am

Too Shocking for Google? Marsha Blackburn Ad Flagged Over Footage of Left-Wing Protesters

Google Ads is being accused of trying to censor a campaign ad from Republican Senate candidate Marsha Blackburn because it contained "shocking" footage of left-wing protesters.

The Tennessee congresswoman, running for Republican Sen. Bob Corker's seat, reportedly sought to promote the campaign videos to Google search users, but the effort was denied.



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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:11 am

looks like news manufacturing business is going strong

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MSNBC Puts Florida Governor Race Vote-Total Graphic Onscreen A Wee Bit Early

It’s the kind of goof that the folks who scream about “fake news” likely will scream about. MSNBC this evening briefly put a graphic onscreen that showed “vote counts” for the Florida gubernatorial race — you know, the one being held tomorrow.

“Quick clarification here,” a rather embarrassed All In host Chris Hayes told viewers. “Just want to say, earlier this hour, uh, we showed a graphic of the Florida gubernatorial race. May have caught your eye because our system had inadvertently populated some test numbers. Obviously, we do not yet have any vote totals here, the night before the election.
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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:27 am

MSM are scum fucks and everyone is well aware that the dead vote democrat
illegal alien? no problem... vote multiple times...mass voting fraud is the norm anymore
Soros & Company own most of the voting machines so they are giving their rigging results
so they seem more confident in their crime this time for some reason
to win any election it has to be massive landslide to come out close
they started the big purge from bigtech social media for "keeping up appearances"
the entire system is broken from organized corruption and "democracy" is a joke
go ahead call it a "conspiracy theory" you fucking dumb ass twit twats
What was it that Stalin said about voting?

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by killing raven sun » Tue Nov 06, 2018 10:34 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:27 am
What was it that Stalin said about voting?
voting is the opiate of the masses?

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by jliat » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:10 am

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."

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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue Nov 06, 2018 11:22 am

Marx is famous — or perhaps infamous — for writing that "religion is the opium of the people"
which is usually translated as "religion is the opiate of the masses"

If religion is the opium of the masses, are the masses self-medicating or is someone drugging them?

The foundation of irreligious criticism is: Man makes religion, religion does not make man. Religion is, indeed, the self-consciousness and self-esteem of man who has either not yet won through to himself, or has already lost himself again. But man is no abstract being squatting outside the world. Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification. It is the fantastic realization of the human essence since the human essence has not acquired any true reality. The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion.

Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people. -- Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right, 1843.

Stalin may have said Voting is the opiate of the masses whilst drinking Vodka
and telling the "counters" of the the vote
the ultimate results of the "selection"
or else...

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
that's the translation
maybe you can get one of the russians around here to type it verbatim in Cyrillic


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Re: Censorship in China/EU/UK/US is a Nightmare

Post by killing raven sun » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:28 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:44 am
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yep, elections in the you ess ay are so fucked, shout out to florida, whoop!whoop!

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