Einstein Proven Right Again

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:31 pm

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Look up Olinto De Pretto
http://www.cartesio-episteme.net/fis/depret-bombay.htm
Tesla on Einsteins work. "magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... (New York Times, 11 July 1935, p 23, c 8 ).
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." (Nikola Tesla)

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by jliat » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:49 pm

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." (Nikola Tesla)


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Tesla became well known as an inventor and would demonstrate his achievements to celebrities and wealthy patrons at his lab, and was noted for his showmanship at public lectures.

In the summer of 1889, Tesla traveled to the 1889 Exposition Universelle in Paris and learned of Heinrich Hertz' 1886–88 experiments that proved the existence of electromagnetic radiation, including radio waves. Tesla found this new discovery "refreshing" and decided to explore it more fully. In repeating, and then expanding on, these experiments,

In March 1896, after hearing of Wilhelm Röntgen's discovery of X-ray and X-ray imaging (radiography), Tesla proceeded to do his own experiments in X-ray imaging,

Tesla theorized that the application of electricity to the brain enhanced intelligence. In 1912, he crafted "a plan to make dull students bright by saturating them unconsciously with electricity,"

Tesla was incorrect in his assumption that high frequency radio waves would penetrate water


Since 1900, Tesla had been living at the Waldorf Astoria in New York running up a large bill.In 1922, he moved to St. Regis Hotel and would follow a pattern from then on of moving to a new hotel every few years leaving behind unpaid bills.

" I loved that pigeon as a man loves a woman, and she loved me. As long as I had her, there was a purpose to my life."



Westinghouse Electric & Manufacturing Company began paying him $125 per month as well as paying his rent, expenses the Company would pay for the rest of Tesla's life.


At the 1932 occasion, Tesla claimed he had invented a motor that would run on cosmic rays.



He claimed it was a theory of energy that was "violently opposed" to Einsteinian physics, and could be tapped with an apparatus that would be cheap to run and last 500 years.


and developing a way to photograph the retina to record thought.

At the 1934 party, Tesla told reporters he had designed a superweapon he claimed would end all war.



[Tesla's] thoughts and efforts during at least the past 15 years were primarily of a speculative, philosophical, and somewhat promotional character often concerned with the production and wireless transmission of power; but did not include new, sound, workable principles or methods for realizing such results.[

He curled his toes one hundred times for each foot every night, saying that it stimulated his brain cells.

Tesla disagreed with the theory of atoms being composed of smaller subatomic particles, stating there was no such thing as an electron creating an electric charge....and that they had nothing to do with electricity.

Tesla believed that atoms are immutable—they could not change state or be split in any way.

"To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I, for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view."

Tesla, like many of his era, becoming a proponent of an imposed selective breeding version of eugenics.



"The only method compatible with our notions of civilization and the race is to prevent the breeding of the unfit by sterilization"

- Telsa

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:55 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:31 pm

Look up Olinto De Pretto
Yes checked this out -

"In physics, mass–energy equivalence states that anything having mass has an equivalent amount of energy and vice versa, with these fundamental quantities directly relating to one another by Albert Einstein's famous formula"

So he gets the credit for what many others were working around, thats how the press work. Look at Hawking's reputation! Or Dawkins.
But from reading around -

"While Einstein was the first to have correctly deduced the mass–energy equivalence formula, he was not the first to have related energy with mass. But nearly all previous authors thought that the energy that contributes to mass comes only from electromagnetic fields."

I'm really not that bothered, the public want a hero, a genius, not me. You for some very dubious reasons have a big thing about jews and zionism, again your thing not mine.

I can even help you there - Adorno and serial music- he was a great supporter of Schoenberg, check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Matthias_Hauer
Josef Matthias Hauer (March 19, 1883 – September 22, 1959) was an Austrian composer and music theorist. He is most famous for developing, independent of and a year or two before Arnold Schoenberg, a method for composing with all 12 notes of the chromatic scale. Hauer was also an important early theorist of twelve-tone music and composition.
And there are many others - Picasso re Modern Art and Cubism, "“Lesser artists borrow; great artists steal. ."

What is important though is (for me) not the personae of all this- but in art and such where it leads... I suspect to anyone working in physics now the equations are important not the guy.

So off you trot with your conspiracy theories... :wave:

Oh and your video of the guy - he says at the end he wants to study theology - which he mistakes as being about all religions, its not, and further mistakenly is not about why and where we are... theo - to do with God or gods ology - the study of.

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am

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maybe it is beyond your comprehension that wantonly splitting atoms(especially for making easy money)
was a seriously fucking bad greedy idea...
possibly one of the worst in human history...
for nuclear power...
besides using it for creating nuclear holocausts
greedy dumb asses
that switched from hydro(which is obvious far better/safer/cleaner) to nuclear
because all they can see is that E=$
and $=E
nuclear is/was far easier making fast E thus fast $
regardless of long term seriously malefic effects potentially extinction causing upon the planets ecosystem
there are some things best not given to insane greedy fools
(why would a sane person give such science technology for the insane who would obviously misuse it because of greed?)

yet you are anti rational breeding
(btw what experience do you have breeding animals)
while you commit cultural suicide
and get purposely bred like cattle for dropping your collective intellect
for making your "nation" of no real threat to your overlords
whilst you are too dumb to see it or admit it
yet you sure can banter on about important things like the Einstein myth
$=E
in the case of Special Privilege
you have not disproven Einstein being "promoted" as the smartest human ever by Zionists
they had a poster child for saying they are the smartest on the planet
when in all reality he was simply wasn't
(he was building upon the cumulative work of others blatantly appropriating some concepts/formulas in some cases even out right stealing them claiming as his own)
yet you sure can use the term "conspiracy theory" and even throw in some flat earther accusations
fool
you have nothing better to do than be a wanker?
master debater
waste of E
thanks for serving as an example
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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:46 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:12 am
What i said was to the effect a computer can beat the best human Go player and Chess player, ergo they cant be just following given commands, otherwise those programming these commands would be at least as good as the computer.
bullshit, freedom allows humans to make mistakes, computer code is scrubbed for mistakes, the human has no such luxury, the human loses based on calculation errors, that is the simple truth, can you follow?

please explain if they are not just following commands, what exactly this extra nebulous action is

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:53 am

"ELIZA" there's a hole in your bucket!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
https://learneva.com/blog/what-is-eliza ... elligence/
highly suspecting you have no real experience with any of this beyond what you can google...
plus you Einstein release is just another boring waste of space farce
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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:56 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am

maybe it is beyond your comprehension that wantonly splitting atoms(especially for making easy money) was a seriously fucking bad greedy idea... possibly one of the worst... for nuclear power...
besides using it for creating nuclear holocausts
greedy dumb asses
Comprehend this - "BANG"

That's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot. You blag on about Einstein not being responsible for SR and GR and that all the others were, his wife, the next doors cat... so you cant lay any blame on Albert.

But hey - and comprehend this also - your big hero said Atom splitting was impossible - BANG! That's the other foot gone!
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am
that switched from hydro(which is obvious far better/safer/cleaner) to nuclear
because all they can see is that E=$
and $=E
nuclear was far easier making fast E thus fast $
regardless of long term seriously malefic effects potentially extinction causing upon the planets ecosystem
there are some things best not given to insane greedy fools
(why would a sane person give such science technology for the insane who would obviously misuse it because of greed?)
Same reason Tulsa wanted to invent a death ray. Now if you only had another foot.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am
yet you are anti rational breeding
Reason is OK as far as it goes, like pointing out contradictions - see above.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am

while you commit cultural suicide
Now that is true - posting to this board is one, another is my recent work...
But you cant have me committing cultural suicide and being conformist - well using your reasoning perhaps you can, you can blame someone for something they didn't do.... :shock: .
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am
and get purposely bred like cattle for dropping your collective intellect
for making your "nation" of no real threat to your overlords
whilst you are too dumb to see it or admit it
yet you sure can banter on about important things like the Einstein myth
The only bantering of Einstein myths here is from you. I've now at least twice - its the theory not the personae.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am
$=E
in the case of Special Privilege
you have not disproven Einstein being "promoted" as the smartest human ever by Zionists
they had a poster child for saying they are the smartest on the planet
when in all reality he was simply wasn't
Or would I want to, I don't care. I don't think he was the smartest....
in maths Cantor, and Gödel.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:12 am


(he was building upon the cumulative work of others blatantly appropriating some concepts/formulas in some cases even out right stealing them claiming as his own)
yet you sure can use the term "conspiracy theory" and even throw in some flat earth
fool
The texts show he worked with existing concepts - none (reliable) show evidence if stealing. And working with existing concepts - well
its called SCIENCE.

Newton's famous phrase, 'Standing on the shoulders of Giants'


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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:02 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:53 am
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA
responses to ELIZA were disturbing to Weizenbaum and motivated him to write his book Computer Power and Human Reason: From Judgment to Calculation, in which he explains the limits of computers, as he wants to make clear in people's minds his opinion that the anthropomorphic views of computers are just a reduction of the human being and any life form for that matter. In the independent documentary film Plug & Pray (2010) Weizenbaum said that only people who misunderstood ELIZA called it a sensation.

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:05 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:46 am
jliat wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:12 am
What i said was to the effect a computer can beat the best human Go player and Chess player, ergo they cant be just following given commands, otherwise those programming these commands would be at least as good as the computer.
bullshit, freedom allows humans to make mistakes, computer code is scrubbed for mistakes, the human has no such luxury, the human loses based on calculation errors, that is the simple truth, can you follow?

please explain if they are not just following commands, what exactly this extra nebulous action is
I cant follow all of this, but you cant scrub code for mistakes - its been proven. You need a perfect scrubbing device, human or computer, and there is no way of knowing if you have one. Gödel / Turing... :eew:

And if you use Google street view you will notice the software often mistakes posters for peoples faces, and car registrations... it makes mistakes.

They can learn. They play a game, store the moves, if they dont win - then they follow another route. If this is random, then they will eventually find the winning route, which was not pre programmed.

Once this process gets complex even the programmers who wrote the program cannot predict its actions... nothing spooky.

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:09 am

funny no holes or stigmata in my feet
you completely banter on
you have neither proven nor disproven anything
except you can waste time and avoid subjects
such as the main subject of the initial post
that you can't even touch

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:11 am

are you on the list for getting the google chip implanted in your brain

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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:13 am

BTW dumbass
Tesla never actually released his deathray research
that is why they tore apart his room and scooped up all of his papers instantly upon his death
it is suspected that he probably did it in his head and encrypted any other calculations
yet he also could have just been fishing for some funding during the war
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Re: Einstein Proven Right Again

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:14 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:05 am
I cant follow all of this
should have stopped right there
jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:05 am
but you cant scrub code for mistakes - its been proven. You need a perfect scrubbing device
whoa now dumbass, never said computers were perfect or that code was perfect, just better at following instructions than a human
jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:05 am
They can learn.
pay attention stupid, databases of information and simple instuctions do not facilitate learning, you saying they can learn by creating databases of losses is laughable, you are incredibly dumb
jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:05 am
Once this process gets complex even the programmers who wrote the program cannot predict its actions... nothing spooky.
or impressive, somehow designers who dont understand their creations are admirable???

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