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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:42 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:37 am
the more you read about reality the less you know, the real can only be experienced first hand
Then why bother to write the above - as if i read it i will know less... so your written advice implies a contradiction. :shock:

Unless it's not "real"... :lol:

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:53 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:37 am
the more you read about reality the less you know, the real can only be experienced first hand

Keeping it football = an own goal.....



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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:00 am

You get Trotsky lived in the Bronx...
(where he made contacts with community cash/power Jacob Schiff who funded him)
1522 Vyse Avenue
Right?
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you also get that operation "Dynamo" was allowed happening by Hitler
(despite his generals saying WTF! at stand down order)
when entire British army had been trapped on the beach...
right?
Yet then again you are a professional "Academia" whore for "The System"...
right?
"FAKE NEWS"? are you fucking trained talking parrots using MSM media buzzwords?
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here's the "official spin" on Nicolas & George:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/87 ... -communist
once again merely proving that King George wasn't the one really ruling UK
he had to take orders
for letting his "identical" cousin's family die at the cruel sadistic hands of the Bolsheviks
Bloody Git...
BTW "Electric Universe" is good read
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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:42 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:37 am
the more you read about reality the less you know, the real can only be experienced first hand
so your written advice implies a contradiction. :shock:
i love how stupid people blame others for their own inability to understand the personal experience

not only is there no contradiction, as you so succinctly pointed out by not delineating one, but the words are the simplest and most direct language

you on the other hand like to tear down sign posts and claim there is no meaning, because dead guys

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:57 am

"Theater of the Absurd"
non stop
bread & circus style

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:13 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:00 am
You get Trotsky lived in the Bronx...
(where he made contacts with community cash/power Jacob Schiff who funded him)
You said -

"Trotsky born Lev Davidovich Bronstein were Jewish(from NYC) "

Living for three months is not the same thing at all. When you say someone is from somewhere it denotes their place of birth normally.
I'm not aware of Schiff funding him, though "He financed the enemies of autocratic Russia and used his financial influence to keep Russia from the money markets of the United States." - seems at odds? Also Trotsky is reported to have been quite poor whilst in NYC... but the fact remains he was no more FROM NYC than he was from SPAIN or any other country he visited.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:00 am
you also get that operation "Dynamo" was allowed happening by Hitler
(despite his generals saying WTF! at stand down order)
when entire British army had been trapped on the beach...
right?
Wrong - they were not trapped on the beach but famously rescued from it.

To cut things short - the german generals stopped the advance, with approval from Hitler, who withdrew this order later...

"On 23 May, at the suggestion of Fourth Army commander Generalfeldmarschall Günther von Kluge, Rundstedt had ordered the panzer units to halt, concerned about the vulnerability of his flanks and the question of supply to his forward troops.[43][44][45][46] He was also concerned that the marshy ground around Dunkirk would prove unsuitable for tanks and he wished to conserve them for later operations (in some units, tank losses were 30–50 percent).[47][48] Hitler was also apprehensive, and on a visit to Army Group A headquarters on 24 May, he endorsed the order.[47][46]

At 15:30 on 26 May, Hitler ordered the panzer groups to continue their advance, but most units took another 16 hours to attack.[54] The delay gave the Allies time to prepare defences vital for the evacuation and prevented the Germans from stopping the Allied retreat from Lille.[55] "
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:00 am

Yet then again you are a professional "Academia" whore for "The System"...
right?
Wrong. I do not work for any academic institution. So that's three mistakes you've made so far..
And now like your fellow you attack the person not the argument. And i'm hardly a whore for a system i'm well known for being a critic of it. Just get your facts right please.
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:00 am

"FAKE NEWS"? are you fucking trained talking parrots using MSM media buzzwords?
Calm down...
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:00 am
here's the "official spin" on Nicolas & George:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/87 ... -communist
once again proving that King George wasn't the one really ruling UK
he had to take orders
for letting his cousin's family die at the cruel sadistic hands of the Bolsheviks
Bloody Git...
Firstly a newspaper article is hardly proof of much - especially the likes of The Express. Did you read it though, it says no such thing!
It does say he was very fond of his cousin. And made plans etc. But the fact remains that the Bolsheviks had the family in captivity and guarded all the time. So he and others were powerless to help them. So 'official spin' from a tabloid newspaper - sorry no.

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:20 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 am
jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:42 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:37 am
the more you read about reality the less you know, the real can only be experienced first hand
so your written advice implies a contradiction. :shock:
i love how stupid people blame others for their own inability to understand the personal experience

not only is there no contradiction, as you so succinctly pointed out by not delineating one, but the words are the simplest and most direct language
Yes there is - you wrote something - presumably to be read, that said you cant get the real from reading..

And "but the words are the simplest and most direct language " 'the words' - what words?
killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:37 am

you on the other hand like to tear down sign posts and claim there is no meaning, because dead guys
"because dead guys" makes no sense, and the two guys i cited are both alive...

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:00 am

jliat wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:20 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 am
not only is there no contradiction, as you so succinctly pointed out by not delineating one, but the words are the simplest and most direct language
Yes there is - you wrote something - presumably to be read, that said you cant get the real from reading..

And "but the words are the simplest and most direct language " 'the words' - what words?
brilliant! you have conflated the real with words!

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by killing raven sun » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:02 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 am
i love how stupid people blame others for their own inability to understand the personal experience

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:22 am

personal experience influences your "perspectives/perception/psyche"
they are intrinsic part of "you"
inspirations/pursuits/goals/aspirations
and/or lack thereof
culminating in desires achieved or denied
you can attempt seeing from 3rd person perspectives
yet without same exact life experiences
or extremely close approximation
you merely see from empathic augmented bastardized first person
attempting grasping another person experiences/situation experiences
BTW figured Jliat had PHD/Masters in Philosophy or something
if not combined with other degrees
ART
teaching/lecturing in "Academia"
as "Professor"
more than merely professional internet contrarian
oops
my bad
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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:25 am

killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:02 am
killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:28 am
i love how stupid people blame others for their own inability to understand the personal experience
killing raven sun wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:02 am

the more you read about reality the less you know, the real can only be experienced first hand


And he also wrote these words - to be read. Now if i read "the more you read about reality the less you know, the real can only be experienced first hand" if the sentence is about reality - the less i know, if its not then i can forget it. Either way the sentence sucks as you might say.

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:46 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:22 am

BTW figured Jliat had PHD/Masters in Philosophy or something
if not combined with other degrees
teaching/lecturing in "Academia"
as "Professor"
more than merely professional internet contrarian
oops
my bad
I have degrees in Art and Philosophy. I did teach, computer science (of all things). Never bothered with an MA
or PHD. And not a professor. I'm not that happy with the "merely professional internet contrarian" though.

I have written and presented some papers and some recordings...


i'm generally critical of certain people in the Humanities, especially those who use philosophy without really putting in the background reading. I'm also critical of the Arts, either left wing professional 'activists' or right wing capitalists...


snip from recent paper..
What of art? Again there is a clear right/left divide. The super-collectors such as Saatchi, and an art industry focused on the gallery system and auction houses contrasted with politically active movements in Art of the Left, in the UK typified by Art Monthly.

To the left the art work disappears in favour of collective activism and is validated by the social results of such confrontations.

On the right, is money!
As the YBA Hirst said
“I can't wait to get into a position to make really bad art and get away with it”
Damien Hirst's 'Treasures from the Wreck of the Unbelievable' of 2017 consists of 190 works across 54,000 square feet of gallery spaces in Venice. Galleries owned by François Pinault. Who owns Christie's Auction House, which sells “Hirst's” work. Who is estimated to be worth 13.7 billion dollars as of 2015.

The artworks of 'The Treasures' were produced for Hirst, not by Hirst at Hirst's personal expense, at a cost of between 50 and 100 million UK pounds to manufacture.
Art has become 'technological' in the complexity of its social, political, economic, philosophical structures and networks. It too brings therefore an alienation for any individual. The individual is now part of a network, group or industry. Culture is now an industry.
And my logos...

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The National Lottery funds The Arts in the UK as does the arts council... the Monkey is a kind of joke on Derrida's /There is nothing outside the text' quote.. nothing in it either in this case... :doh:

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:03 am

Eye am currently have hard time finding good newer(open source) C++ compiler....
used VB & Borland years ago plus started learning programming code around 82(prodigy kid)
been attempting it again recently frustrated getting constant compiler errors with "CodeBlocks"
feels like wasting huge amounts of time
yet also have nature that doesn't just give up easily
it's not high priority on my list or anything now
yet want making computerized Lorenz/Rossler Attractor control VCO/LFO for midi/cv
~shrug~
the stupid shite eye get obsessed/fixated on sometimes...
probably switch gears soon for hardware design of such KAOS CV circuits
even if we don't agree
appreciate your contrarianism
"never trust someone that always agrees with you"

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by jliat » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:39 am

I'm using an old version of Visual Studio 2017- but I think this is free...

https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

Has VB as well as C++ etc.


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I learnt on one of these.... 8k wow!

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Re: He didn't bow!!!!!

Post by WhiteWarlock » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:56 am

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CPU: Advanced Z-80A 8-Bit Processor (2.03 MHz) Kits were sold to double this to 4Mhz

RAM: 4K - 48K

ROM: 4K ROM (Level I) or 14K ROM (Model III BASIC - co copyrighted by Tandy and Microsoft)

Video Display: Memory mapped with high-resolution 12" Black and White Integrated Monitor. Includes scroll protect with 96 text characters, 64 graphics characters and 160 "special" characters. Screen format for Level I and Model III BASIC is 64 characters by 16 lines. Model III BASIC also provides 32 characters by 16 lines. Graphics are 128x48.

Keyboard: Full-size "typewriter' style, 65-key integral keyboard includes 12-key numeric pad for data entry plus repeating keys. Model III BASIC includes upper and lower case.

I/O: Cassette Tape Recorder (250 Baud for Level I; 500/1500 Baud for Level II)

Ports: Computer-controlled cassette inferface, Parallel Printer interface, internal 25 pin RS-232-C (Serial) Port, Buffered Bus for adding 2 Internal and 2 external double-density 5 1/4-inch disk drives.

learned on TRS(Trash)80 Model III
with the big orange all too frequently pressed "Break" key
(that's were learned always consistently save when working on computer projects)
started getting college credits in grade school
"Prodigy Program"
ummm before 82(was wrong in other post)....
timeline can all be big blur sometimes
did hard reformat(erase)
"Programming and MetaProgramming the Human Biocomputer"
my life has never been anywhere near what would be termed "normal"
whatever the fuck that is supposed to be
"Social Norms"(such as submissive bowing or genuflect to the Queen)
Commodore PET2001 is year or so older than TRS80 MarkIII

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