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What is math?

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Re: What is math?

Post by jliat » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:58 pm

It's a pity the video failed to mention Gödel.





Also - it took for granted the meaning of "True" and "is"..... but that is more philosophy... Heidegger!

:doh:

TRUTH:



IS:

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To cut short the consequences of Gödel et al,
any rational (ratio) logical definition of what is
maths must include itself and so fall victim to
incompleteness. Or worse.

This uncovers the real questions - what is being?
(what is 'is') and the requirement to know what is, is
prior to the question. And what is truth, which also
has the 'is' problem and then the idea that truth
is just ratio A=A, which has the same problems as
mathematics..

The answer to this in Heidegger is Art can both
reveal (truth) at the same time conceal it. That being
is an isness... the pre subjective history of being,
one *was* before the idea of subjectivity or the question,
or any question, ones historical being there always comes
first.

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Re: What is math?

Post by fire » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:46 pm

jliat wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:58 pm
[white western supremacy]
whats with the viagra bots and racists?
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Re: What is math?

Post by jliat » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:18 pm

fire wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:46 pm
jliat wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:58 pm
[white western supremacy]
whats with the viagra bots and racists?
Seems to be an American,sorry USA, thing.

BTW Derrida was a jew born in Africa, thrown out of school by Nazis... whose philosophy
rejected logocentrism ("regarding words and language as a fundamental expression of an external reality (especially applied as a negative term to traditional Western thought by postmodernist critics")) I'd question the first part of the definition, but the latter shows you are wrong...

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Re: What is math?

Post by fire » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:21 am

jliat wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:18 pm
a jew born in Africa... shows you are wrong...
judaism is a cult, not a race

just admit it, if its brown youre not down
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Re: What is math?

Post by jliat » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:43 am

fire wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:21 am
jliat wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:18 pm
a jew born in Africa... shows you are wrong...
judaism is a cult, not a race

just admit it, if its brown youre not down
"Racial antisemitism is a form of antisemitism or prejudice against Jews on the basis belief that Jews are a racial or ethnic group, rather than prejudice against Judaism as a religion. The definition is based on the premise that Jews constitute a distinctive race or ethnic group, whose traits or characteristics "

"Scientists :eew: consider biological essentialism obsolete, and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits."



The brown down thing i dont get - some US thing...

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Re: What is math?

Post by fire » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:28 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:43 am
Racial antisemitism...
was created by the jew cult to cover for their abominable behavior
jliat wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:43 am
"Scientists :eew: consider biological essentialism obsolete, and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits."
thats because theyre stupid and have never watched a basketball game
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Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:43 am
The brown down thing i dont get - some US thing...
says the hopelessly white guy
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Re: What is math?

Post by jliat » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:01 am

fire wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:28 am
says the hopelessly white guy



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Re: What is math?

Post by fire » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:26 pm

"Souls are not punished," the Pope was quoted as saying
well thats nice, since i didnt do anything wrong
"Those who repent obtain God's forgiveness
wut? repent? for my sin of existence??? if there is no punishment for noncompliance then whats the benefit of "forgiveness"?
and go among the ranks of those who contemplate him,
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, i see now, its one of those club things, so you feel more connected to... something?... not sure what... anyway, i drink unpastorized power
but those who do not repent and cannot be forgiven disappear.
hahahahaha haha ha hahaha ha! oh shit! i lold hard on that, so great, laughter really is the best medicine! "cannot be forgiven", lol, is your god too tired? poor little goddy, just rest a minute and maybe you can go on forgiving, or maybe he is just intolerant, angry with himself because he made mistakes, gotta just live up brother, own those fuck ups and move on, or is it that he is too stupid to figure it out? my money is on stupid
There is no hell - there is the disappearance of sinful souls."
uh oh, thats one hell of an incompetent god, and mean too, threatening oblivion, wow, you sir are an asshole
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Re: What is math?

Post by jliat » Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:38 am

fire wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:26 pm
"Souls are not punished," the Pope was quoted as saying
well thats nice, since i didnt do anything wrong

Well you are not a Christian and so of course you don't believe in 'original sin'.
But Christians do. (I should say 'conventional' Christians)

You believe everything is electric - yet cant prove it.

Christians believe in Original sin and its redemption, but cant prove it.
;)

So no need to get all upset.

As the great George (Harri Harrison)said...

"And while the Pope owns 51% of General Motors
And the stock exchange is the only thing he's qualified to quote us
The lord is awaiting on you all to awaken and see
By chanting the names of the lord and you'll be free"



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Re: What is math?

Post by fire » Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:32 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:38 am
Well you are not a Christian and so of course you don't believe in 'original sin'.
yeah, so, you obviously know very little about anything, how can you be so wrong so often?

xtians believe everyone is going to hell defacto, thats why they preach and go on missionary, to save us ignorant wicked, so they certainly believe i am going to hell, do you understand?
jliat wrote:
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You believe everything is electric - yet cant prove it.
yeah, so, you obviously know very little about anything, how can you be so wrong so often?

it is you that believes that i believe that everything is electric and that i cant prove it, but, in reality(where you have very little experience) i do not believe anything but rather understand that everything is electric, you are not able or unwilling to understand reality because of your beliefs, its that simple ;)
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As the great George (Harri Harrison)said...
your religion has failed you
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Re: What is math?

Post by jliat » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:38 am
Well you are not a Christian and so of course you don't believe in 'original sin'.
fire wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:32 am
yeah, so, you obviously know very little about anything, how can you be so wrong so often?

xtians believe everyone is going to hell defacto, thats why they preach and go on missionary, to save us ignorant wicked, so they certainly believe i am going to hell, do you understand?
Please, you might know lots of stuff but your notions of Christianity are plain wrong. And not all Christians are missionaries out to save people. Specifically some believe salvation is predetermined, that is some will go to hell others will not, no matter what they do, how good or bad they are. Some Christians think that hell's gates were broken and those inside freed when Jesus descended into hell, its in one of the creeds. And so those in hell or go to hell are free to leave. Others do not. Please don't make up stuff then get riled over it. When it comes down to it most Christians believe that God decides or has decided, and many that Christ's redemption is even for, especially for, the ignorant and wicked. But I guess I understand those in the USA get a very distorted picture of religion given the fundamentalists in the Bible belt... but not all snakes are poisonous, not all plants edible...
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:38 am
You believe everything is electric - yet cant prove it.
fire wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 2:32 am
yeah, so, you obviously know very little about anything, how can you be so wrong so often?

it is you that believes that i believe that everything is electric and that i cant prove it, but, in reality(where you have very little experience) i do not believe anything but rather understand that everything is electric, you are not able or unwilling to understand reality because of your beliefs, its that simple ;)
If that floats your boat. You still can offer no proof of your understanding. Your understanding of Christianity is plain wrong. You've simply fabricated something to attack, likewise what you think is 'my belief'. Just because I say in Catholicism there is purgatory, from which the Pope can free those there, it does not mean i'm a believing Catholic. Any more than if I say there are those who UNDERSTAND everything is electric doesn't mean I think likewise.

So once again you attack a strawman of your own making.

And I think both yourself and the Catholic have to offer some proof if they claim understanding and not faith or belief...

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Re: What is math?

Post by fire » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:08 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am
Specifically some believe salvation is predetermined, that is some will go to hell others will not, no matter what they do, how good or bad they are.
wrong, specifically, nobody thinks this, liar
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am
Some Christians think that hell's gates were broken and those inside freed when Jesus descended into hell, its in one of the creeds.
lol, no they dont, you cant provide one example, liar
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am
Please don't make up stuff then get riled over it.
haha ha!
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am
When it comes down to it most Christians believe that God decides or has decided, and many that Christ's redemption is even for, especially for, the ignorant and wicked.
uh, yeah stupid, thats what i said
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am
But I guess I understand those in the USA get a very distorted picture of religion given the fundamentalists in the Bible belt... but not all snakes are poisonous, not all plants edible...
haha ha! you are stupid!
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:38 am
Your understanding of Christianity is plain wrong.
nope, you are plain lying
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:43 am
And I think both yourself and the Catholic have to offer some proof if they claim understanding and not faith or belief...
well, the religious have their documents, thats their proof

as for the electric universe, as evidence, there is literally everything, your inability to understand this does not change its validity

i have offered you proof, but you ignore, so once again, if you want proof, prove it to yourself and name one thing that is not measured electrically

your action at this point has been to deflect, which means you are just trolling, this is the truth
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