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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:01 am

jliat wrote:
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[i dont know or believe anything]
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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MKULTRA wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:42 am
Sure you can learn it in 5 minutes. But every joint you solder will be a fail. Flawless joints, repeated ad nauseum, is the path to perfection.

Practice doesn't make perfect.
Perfect practice makes perfect.
thats pretty much what i said isnt it
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:16 am

fire wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:01 am

I beieve everything is electric and my faith is mighty.... praise the Amp oH Worship The Ohm...

Our Faraday who art electric... give us this day our wattage
Dureacell this day and
Lead us not into short circuit as we do not short circuit others...
For thine is the electron for ever ready and ever ready...
Ohm Men.

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:25 am

jliat wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:16 am
fire wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:01 am

I beieve everything is electric and my faith is mighty.... praise the Amp oH Worship The Ohm...

Our Faraday who art electric... give us this day our wattage
Dureacell this day and
Lead us not into short circuit as we do not short circuit others...
For thine is the electron for ever ready and ever ready...
Ohm Men.
this would rate higher if you were amish

but you expect more from your self so...

2.5/10
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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15 pages guys.. you can do it!.. I have faith in you both!!

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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oh shit, twenty at least, dont die on me yet jliat
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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Brain stimulation used like a scalpel to improve memory

January 19, 2017
Northwestern University

Northwestern Medicine scientists showed for the first time that non-invasive brain stimulation can be used like a scalpel, rather than like a hammer, to cause a specific improvement in precise memory.

Precise memory, rather than general memory, is critical for knowing details such as the specific color, shape and location of a building you are looking for, rather than simply knowing the part of town it's in. This type of memory is crucial for normal functioning, and it is often lost in people with serious memory disorders.

"We show that it is possible to target the portion of the brain responsible for this type of memory and to improve it," said lead author Joel Voss, assistant professor of medical social sciences at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine. "People with brain injuries have problems with precise memory as do individuals with dementia, and so our findings could be useful in developing new treatments for these conditions."

By stimulating the brain network responsible for spatial memory with powerful electromagnets, scientists improved the precision of people's memory for identifying locations. This benefit lasted a full 24 hours after receiving stimulation and corresponded to changes in brain activity.

"We improved people's memory in a very specific and important way a full day after we stimulated their brains," Voss said.

The paper was published Jan. 19 in Current Biology.

The research enhances scientific understanding of how memory can be improved using noninvasive stimulation. Most previous studies of noninvasive brain stimulation have found only very general and short-lived effects on thinking abilities, rather than highly specific and long-lasting effects on an ability such as precise memory
A new study published in Biological Psychiatry: Cognitive Neuroscience and Neuroimaging reports that processing of negative emotion can be strengthened or weakened by tuning the excitability of the right frontal part of the brain.

Using magnetic stimulation outside the brain, a technique called repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation (rTMS), researchers at University of Münster, Germany, show that, despite the use of inhibitory stimulation currently used to treat depression, excitatory stimulation better reduced a person's response to fearful images.

The findings provide the first support for an idea that clinicians use to guide treatment in depression, but has never been verified in a lab. "This study confirms that modulating the frontal region of the brain, in the right hemisphere, directly effects the regulation of processing of emotional information in the brain in a 'top-down' manner," said Cameron Carter, M.D., Editor of Biological Psychiatry: Cognitive Neuroscience and Neuroimaging, referring to the function of this region as a control center for the emotion-generating structures of the brain. "These results highlight and expand the scope of the potential therapeutic applications of rTMS," said Dr. Carter
In a study published in the Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, researchers at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston found magnets to be more effective than sham magnets at blocking pain caused by post-polio syndrome. This syndrome, marked by leg pain, affects up to 20% of polio sufferers later in life.

In the controlled study, 76% of patients treated with a magnet got pain relief. Only 18% treated with a sham magnet got relief.
"All biological systems on Earth are exposed to an external and internal environment of fluctuating invisible magnetic fields of a wide range of frequencies. These fields can affect virtually every cell and circuit to a greater or lesser degree." – Synchronization of Human Autonomic Nervous System Rhythms with Geomagnetic Activity in Human Subjects, a newly published study in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health.

A research team that conducted the study cited above and published this month added further evidence to the scientific community’s understanding of how human autonomic nervous systems respond to environment influences. In this study, those influences resulted from, among other factors, changes in solar and geomagnetic activity, cosmic rays and the frequencies known as the Schumann resonances.

Led by HeartMath Institute Director of Research Dr. Rollin McCraty, the research team also found that the study participants’ heart rate variability rhythms synchronized remarkably, with one another over the more-than-four-week study period. That was despite the participants all being in separate locations.
Although a cell phone is much less powerful than TMS, the question still remains: Could the electrical signals coming from a phone affect certain brainwaves operating in resonance with cell phone transmission frequencies? After all, the caller's cerebral cortex is just centimeters away from radiation broadcast from the phone's antenna. Two studies provide some revealing news.

The first, led by Rodney Croft, of the Brain Science Institute, Swinburne University of Technology in Melbourne, Australia, tested whether cell phone transmissions could alter a person's brainwaves. The researchers monitored the brainwaves of 120 healthy men and women while a Nokia 6110 cell phone—one of the most popular cell phones in the world—was strapped to their head. A computer controlled the phone's transmissions in a double-blind experimental design, which meant that neither the test subject nor researchers knew whether the cell phone was transmitting or idle while EEG data were collected. The data showed that when the cell phone was transmitting, the power of a characteristic brain-wave pattern called alpha waves in the person's brain was boosted significantly. The increased alpha wave activity was greatest in brain tissue directly beneath to the cell phone, strengthening the case that the phone was responsible for the observed effect.

Alpha waves fluctuate at a rate of eight to 12 cycles per second (Hertz). These brainwaves reflect a person's state of arousal and attention. Alpha waves are generally regarded as an indicator of reduced mental effort, "cortical idling" or mind wandering. But this conventional view is perhaps an oversimplification. Croft, for example, argues that the alpha wave is really regulating the shift of attention between external and internal inputs. Alpha waves increase in power when a person shifts his or her consciousness of the external world to internal thoughts; they also are the key brainwave signatures of sleep.

If cell phone signals boost a person's alpha waves, does this nudge them subliminally into an altered state of consciousness or have any effect at all on the workings of their mind that can be observed in a person's behavior? In the second study, James Horne and colleagues at the Loughborough University Sleep Research Centre in England devised an experiment to test this question. The result was surprising. Not only could the cell phone signals alter a person's behavior during the call, the effects of the disrupted brain-wave patterns continued long after the phone was switched off.

"This was a completely unexpected finding," Horne told me. "We didn't suspect any effect on EEG [after switching off the phone]. We were interested in studying the effect of mobile phone signals on sleep itself." But it quickly became obvious to Horne and colleagues in preparing for the sleep-research experiments that some of the test subjects had difficulty falling asleep.

Horne and his colleagues controlled a Nokia 6310e cell phone—another popular and basic phone—attached to the head of 10 healthy but sleep-deprived men in their sleep research lab. (Their sleep had been restricted to six hours the previous night.) The researchers then monitored the men's brainwaves by EEG while the phone was switched on and off by remote computer, and also switched between "standby," "listen" and "talk" modes of operation for 30 minute intervals on different nights. The experiment revealed that after the phone was switched to "talk" mode a different brain-wave pattern, called delta waves (in the range of one to four Hertz), remained dampened for nearly one hour after the phone was shut off. These brainwaves are the most reliable and sensitive marker of stage two sleep—approximately 50 percent of total sleep consists of this stage—and the subjects remained awake twice as long after the phone transmitting in talk mode was shut off. Although the test subjects had been sleep-deprived the night before, they could not fall asleep for nearly one hour after the phone had been operating without their knowledge.
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:50 pm

Daric just to let you know I don't read these huge quotes of yours from scientific journals. I'm not sure why you post them, other than to help support your beliefs. Which is kinda contradictory...(i'm no way a fan of science like you...)

But then you are so contradictory - this thread you started....

"Astrology - the only real science"

And the you posted...

"there is no such thing as 'psuedoscience', it is all science "

Brilliant! LOL. You very funny...

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 am

jliat wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:50 pm
Daric just to let you know I don't read these huge quotes of yours from scientific journals. I'm not sure why you post them, other than to help support your beliefs. Which is kinda contradictory...(i'm no way a fan of science like you...)
james, you must be trolling, not sure why else you think i give a disabled fuck about you, i post for my own needs alone

you sure think youre important
jliat wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:50 pm
"there is no such thing as 'psuedoscience', it is all science "

Brilliant! LOL. You very funny...
yep, brilliant indeed, because all of life is science, and all science is related to energy exchange, hence all science is under astrology, its a consciousness thing, something you sorely lack
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:52 am

fire wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 am
jliat wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:50 pm
Daric just to let you know I don't read these huge quotes of yours from scientific journals. I'm not sure why you post them, other than to help support your beliefs. Which is kinda contradictory...(i'm no way a fan of science like you...)
james, you must be trolling, not sure why else you think i give a disabled fuck about you, i post for my own needs alone
Well you seem to need to post replies to me, so you are yet again wrong, you don't post for your own needs, you need people to post to.
Only a crazy person would post vast tracks of stuff to a board and say they are not for anyone else to read.. only a crazy person....
fire wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 am

you sure think youre important
No, but you do seem bothered enough about me to think that.
jliat wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:50 pm
"there is no such thing as 'psuedoscience', it is all science "

Brilliant! LOL. You very funny...
fire wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:27 am
yep, brilliant indeed, because all of life is science, and all science is related to energy exchange, hence all science is under astrology, its a consciousness thing, something you sorely lack
It follows then if " all science is under astrology, its a consciousness thing," and "all of life is science" and " its a consciousness thing, something you sorely lack"

by your reasoning you are posting to something not alive or conscious... :chin:

And it still stands that your OP is by your own reasoning wrong.

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:26 am

oh shit, youre right, you following me around, calling me unoriginal and trying to discredit everything i post isnt trolling, its somehow me making you do it

whatever clem
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am

fire wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:26 am
oh shit, youre right, you following me around, calling me unoriginal and trying to discredit everything i post isnt trolling, its somehow me making you do it

whatever clem
Hardly following you around. You didnt start the Post re Maths. And newsflash, you post on these boards and other people are allowed to respond.

Did i call you un original - i dont think so. I did say some of your ideas were not solely of your own making. Like electricity. But you are certainly an 'original' character here...

As for discredit everything you post. No. You are welcome to your opinions, and life style, food etc. But having an opinion is one thing - calling others who dissagree ignorant morons is quite another. You can belive anything you want, but if you claim absolute knowledge - (A God like perspective) i'll chip in if you dont mind.

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:04 am

jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
Hardly following you around.
like a lost puppy, you are
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
You didnt start the Post re Maths. And newsflash, you post on these boards and other people are allowed to respond.
the confusion is strong with this one...

newsflash, i dont give a shit about your activities, why would i care if you post here, thats your problem
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
Did i call you un original - i dont think so.
yes - yes you have, you seem to think its an insult or puts me in my place, but im not trying to be original, thats for dorks who make unlistenable noise albums
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
I did say some of your ideas were not solely of your own making. Like electricity.
uh, try some reading comprehension once in a while, i dont claim to have invented or discovered anything that didnt already exist, you just want to attack strawmen, easier than addressing my comments
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
But you are certainly an 'original' character here...
your opinion is worthless and wrong, as adrian pointed out by referring to clara
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
As for discredit everything you post. No. You are welcome to your opinions, and life style, food etc. But having an opinion is one thing - calling others who dissagree ignorant morons is quite another.
i dont call names, i point out facts

fact is: you are stupid
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
You can belive anything you want,
well thanks for your permission dickwad, but as i have said, i believe nothing
jliat wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:46 am
but if you claim absolute knowledge - (A God like perspective) i'll chip in if you dont mind.
why would i mind, why are you so insecure?

try getting out of your mums house once in a while clem
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