Astrology -the only real science

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by xdugef » Fri Mar 16, 2018 3:43 pm

Oct. 30, 2008:

During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in. A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.

"It's called a flux transfer event or 'FTE,'" says space physicist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."
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Must be a really long article.. 2008 was ten years ago and so far I have not seen any magnetic portals overhead.

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:57 pm

fire wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:04 pm
jliat wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:55 am
the video makes no claims -
correct, those portrayed in the video present evidence

you will be the first to admit you lack the ability to understand what they are talking about

so, off to bed with you clem
As i've said Clemon was Luke's tag, not my own. You persist in getting this wrong, which doesn't help your credibility. It also avoids my questions, so electricity comes in different shapes and quantities, how so? Where in the video do the guys make the claim that everything is electric, and just what is this 'electric' made from.

Now i know you want to change the subject, but you made these claims and now YOU don't want to talk about them.

I'll maybe give the vid another look, but it seems more concerned with explaining how they made the device and how they got things wrong and so burnt out an expensive probe...
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 am

fire wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:30 pm
[not implications, explanations
Oct. 30, 2008:

During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in. A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away. Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.

"It's called a flux transfer event or 'FTE,'" says space physicist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center. "Ten years ago I was pretty sure they didn't exist, but now the evidence is incontrovertible."
So you are now quoting a NASA scientist's ten year old article in support of the builders of SAFIRE? Or some such. The very scientists who also say these effects and particles are caused by the sun's thermonuclear action and whose particles can be measured on the earth due to the effects of Einstein's relativity. That the process accounts for the production of heavier elements as well as the measured flow of neutrinos...

You missed out the bit .. ""We used to think the connection was permanent and that solar wind could trickle into the near-Earth environment anytime the wind was active," says Sibeck. "We were wrong. The connections are not steady at all. They are often brief, bursty and very dynamic."

You did this before - you can't use the purportedly correct findings of a science you think is wrong to support your claim that this science is wrong and everything is electric. A claim that not even those in the Electric Universe 'camp' do not seem to make. :huh:

You can't, that is, without contradiction.

But i think the guys @ EU are OK, i think that such "free" thinking is OK by keen amaturers, as long as it doesn't begin to get accepted as 'true', for then we get all kinds of bad things happening to people. Once those not able to see they might be wrong get going we can get such things as Islamic State. That is my real objection to your outbursts, its dangerous to not see one might be wrong.

So - i might be wrong. Would you care to say that you might be? :chin:

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:59 am

jliat wrote:
Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:57 pm
Now i know you want to change the subject, but you made these claims and now YOU don't want to talk about them.

I'll maybe give the vid another look, but it seems more concerned with explaining how they made the device and how they got things wrong and so burnt out an expensive probe...
probably just take a nap or two instead clem
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:12 am

jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 am
You missed out the bit
nonsense, i have missed nothing, my aim is true, my shots on target

you know nothing of the subject so your opinion is worthless clem
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 am
"free" thinking is OK by keen amaturers, as long as it doesn't begin to get accepted as 'true', for then we get all kinds of bad things happening to people
see, this is how i know you are clem, when you admit you dont understand a subject but then admonish those who do for not being as dumb as you, kinda makes you look like a doosh
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 am
Once those not able to see they might be wrong get going
bro, you in top gear
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 am
we can get such things as Islamic State. That is my real objection to your outbursts, its dangerous to not see one might be wrong.
yep, you morons are dangerous, the fact that you think IS is a rebel group and not a state sponsored regime change apparatus makes you dangerously stupid
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:33 am
So - i might be wrong. Would you care to say that you might be? :chin:
you are definitely wrong most of the time, i am not
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by xdugef » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:21 am

Solar mind control!

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am

fire wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:12 am
lots of odd stuff...


I never said IS was a rebel group, EU is pseudo science - I do know about that... so you are making stuff
up to the extent of being delusional... oh and i'm not Luke...

and sad to say though you think you are right - you are it seems on your own.. and can offer no proof to support
your claim that everything is electric - which is nonsense - well more - crazy.... even the EU guys don't say that!

I guess you are having another breakdown.... speak more when you are better...

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:09 pm

jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
I never said IS was a rebel group
you postured as if you knew anything about them, which is doubtful
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
EU is pseudo science - I do know about that...
says the self proclaimed ignoramoose
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
so you are making stuff up to the extent of being delusional...
says the self proclaimed ignoramouse
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
oh and i'm not Luke...
lol, ok clem
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
and sad to say though you think you are right - you are it seems on your own..
its weird how you take this so personal
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
and can offer no proof to support
your claim that everything is electric
well, everything is electric, so, thats my proof
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
- which is nonsense - well more - crazy...
says the neechee sycophant
jliat wrote:
Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:06 am
I guess you are having another breakdown.... speak more when you are better...
hahaha haaaa!

i assure you sir, i am awesome!
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:37 am

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you have a purty mouth
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Mon Apr 02, 2018 2:37 pm

Libet tested subjects who had to have brain surgery for some reason unconnected with the experiment and who consented to having electrodes placed at points in the brain, in the somatosensory cortex. He monitored the electrical activity while stimulating their skin. To his amazement it took about a half-second before the subjects were able to perceive the stimulation. Further experiments showed that this same delay — about a half second — was needed for all sensory input to reach consciousness.

The significance of this is enormous. Everything we know about the external world right now — the sounds, the sights, the feelings — are all being delayed. Everything that you think is happening right now actually happened already, about half a second ago!

So how is this possible? How do we drive cars, catch baseballs, swat flies and write or draw if it’s all delayed? Well, the obvious answer is that we have adapted the ability to compensate for the delay by projecting our behavior into the future, which is really “now.”

Confusing? Wait… It gets even better.

Marilyn Schlitz connected volunteers to a series of monitors, similar to a lie detector, to measure their heartbeat, perspiration and other nervous activity. She then had them sit in front of a computer screen and began showing them a series of images which were selected at random by the computer from a large collection. These images were described as either “neutral” (boring) or “emotional” (erotic or morbid). As expected, the subjects showed physical and mental excitement when the “emotional” images were shown and showed less reaction to the “neutral” images. But as the experiment continued, something weird happened.

Researchers began to see that most people, unconsciously, began to react to the “emotional” images a full 5 seconds before they were selected by the computer program! What’s more, they did not react to the “neutral” images. This result was statstically significant (p=0.00003) and has been repeated many times. It strongly suggests hat subjects can perceive the future.

Five seconds isn’t a long time to see into the future. It doesn’t allow you to pick tomorrow’s lottery number or predict the headline. But there is strong evidence that this ability to see future events may extend for several hours.

Dr. Roger Jahn from Princeton University developed a small computer (the Random Event Generator or “black box”) that generated random numbers. The numbers were converted to either “1” or “0” and were recorded over various time intervals. The device was similar to flipping a coin and resulted in an equal number of “1s” and “0s.”

The pattern of ones and noughts — ‘heads’ and ‘tails’ as it were — could then be printed out as a graph. The laws of chance dictate that the generators should churn out equal numbers of ones and zeros — which would be represented by a nearly flat line on the graph. Any deviation from this equal number shows up as a gently rising curve.

During the late 1970s, Jahn decided to investigate whether the power of human thought alone could interfere in some way with the machine’s usual readings. He hauled strangers off the street and asked them to concentrate their minds on his number generator. In effect, he was asking them to try to make it flip more heads than tails.

It was a preposterous idea at the time. The results, however, were stunning and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Dr Nelson, also working at Princeton University, then extended Prof Jahn’s work by taking random number machines to group meditations, which were very popular in America at the time. Again, the results were eyepopping. The groups were collectively able to cause dramatic shifts in the patterns of numbers.

From then on, Dr Nelson was hooked.

Using the internet, he connected up 60 random event generators from all over the world to his laboratory computer in Princeton. These ran constantly, day in day out, generating millions of different pieces of data. Most of the time, the resulting graph on his computer looked more or less like a flat line.

But then on September 6, 1997, something quite extraordinary happened: the graph shot upwards, recording a sudden and massive shift in the number sequence as his machines around the world started reporting huge deviations from the norm. The day was of historic importance for another reason, too. It was the day when over one-billion people, from all around the globe, watched the funeral of the loved Diana, Princess of Wales at Westminister Abbey and millions participated in delivering flowers by post UK to her funeral site.

It seems that, without making a conscious effort to focus on the “black boxes,” the collective psyché of humanity was able to change the random pattern. This amazing event prompted Nelson to install the “black boxes” in 41 different countries around the globe and wire them together over the internet so that the collective results could be instantly monitored. And this is when he noted something even more extraordinary.

On September 11, 2001, the normally flat line of the boxes began to peak, warning of an event of terrible proportions a full 4 hours before the first plane hit the World Trade Center! Could the collective human mind have “known” what was going to happen?
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by jliat » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:40 pm

So the black boxes set up in 1997 failed to spot the following

280,000 deaths 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami
160,000 deaths 2010 Haiti earthquake
10,000–30,000 deaths Vargas tragedy Venezuela 1999
1,300 deaths The Daulatpur–Saturia tornado Manikganj, Bangladesh 1989
138,866 deaths 1991 Bangladesh cyclone Bangladesh April 29, 1991
138,366 deaths Cyclone Nargis Myanmar May 2, 2008

From which we assume for "the collective psyché of humanity"
only American (USA) lives matter!!!!!!

Or is this psyche simply anti Islamic fundamentalists.... or pro?

Or are we reading patterns into random events by wishful thinking and bad faith- and pseudo science, once the stuff of
religion.... :doh:

Marilyn Schlitz is a writer and producer, known for Death Makes Life Possible, Entheogen: Awakening the Divine Within ...Dr. Marilyn Schlitz has conducted some of the most prominent parapsychology experiments in history. In the lab, she has explored psi phenomena like the ability of a person’s thoughts to physically affect another person’s body. ...


Robert George Jahn...Jahn also engaged in the study of psychokinesis for many years....Science writer Kendrick Frazier wrote that Jahn's experiments were faulted because of failing to randomize the sequence of group trials at each session, inadequate documentation on precautions against data tampering and possibilities of data selection...
Park has suggested the reason statistical studies such as Jahn's are so popular in parapsychology is because they introduce opportunities for uncertainty and error which are used to support the biases of the experimenter. Park wrote "no proof of psychic phenomena is ever found. In spite of all the tests devised by parapsychologists like Jahn and Radin, and huge amounts of data collected over a period of many years, the results are no more convincing today than when they began their experiments."
Two German independent scientific groups have failed to replicate the PEAR results.Pigliucci has written this was "yet another indication that the simplest hypothesis is likely to be true: there was nothing to replicate." The physicist Milton Rothman wrote that most of the faculty at Princeton considered the work of PEAR an embarrassment. Robert L. Park said of PEAR, "It’s been an embarrassment to science, and I think an embarrassment for Princeton".
The Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) was a research program at Princeton University that studied parapsychology. Established in 1979 by then Dean of Engineering Robert G. Jahn, PEAR closed in February 2007, being incorporated into the "International Consciousness Research Laboratories" (ICRL). The program was controversial.
PEAR's primary purpose was to engage in parapsychological exercises on topics such as psychokenesis (PK) and remote viewing. The program had a strained relationship with Princeton and was considered an embarrassment to the university. PEAR's activities have been criticized for lack of scientific rigor, poor methodology, and misuse of statistics,and have been characterized as pseudoscience.

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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:13 am

Halberg realized that Chizhevsky’s discovery went beyond periodicities and cycles, for he had uncovered a sobering truth about the human condition: we are not completely in charge of our own destiny, particularly our biological destiny. The sphere of influence on our biology does not end with our immediate environment or even the Earth itself, but extends to the outer reaches of the cosmos. As many other colleagues of his around the world now confirm, the metronome of every living thing, setting the tempo for our basic regulatory systems and maintaining us in a state of healthy equilibrium, is the sun. So powerful is this cosmic zeitgeber that it may even influence our physical size, our longevity, our mental stability, our propensity to violence, and possibly even what we consider our uniquely individual motivation. Our ultimate environmental Bond, which shapes us and our lives, is with a star 93 million miles away.
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Re: Astrology -the only real science

Post by fire » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:23 am

jliat wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:40 pm
So the black boxes set up in 1997 failed to spot the following

280,000 deaths 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami
160,000 deaths 2010 Haiti earthquake
10,000–30,000 deaths Vargas tragedy Venezuela 1999
1,300 deaths The Daulatpur–Saturia tornado Manikganj, Bangladesh 1989
138,866 deaths 1991 Bangladesh cyclone Bangladesh April 29, 1991
138,366 deaths Cyclone Nargis Myanmar May 2, 2008

From which we assume for "the collective psyché of humanity"
only American (USA) lives matter!!!!!!
or, it is sensitive to man made tragedy, ones that have profound impact

whether right or not, you have to admit the research is interesting, more interesting than retardedly long noise tracks
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