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Post by crochambeau » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:40 am

Choice necro post, I gather then you've been eating berries you found in the woods?
fire wrote:for earths climate to change so radically that both highs are higher and lows are lower requires an energy input change.

end of fucking story dumbshits.
Check this out:

Cold is exposure to space. Heat is energy input coming from the sun, obviously that's a point source input and so the actual impact on this little rock we happen to be riding on varies.

Can I assume you have a grasp on thermodynamics to the point at which you understand heat sinking and transfer of energy?

The big change is that our insulation is eroding, this makes flash point energy incursion (sun's shining, it's summer yo) a more direct course to the surface of the planet. The exosphere is not reflecting/slowing/diffusing the energy so it sinks at the surface, but being the result of a tighter beam (than a wider more averaged distribution) the surface heat storage is localized (in a sun versus shaded manner) and is prone to release the heat in a faster manner.

Easy come, easy go; right?

This creates an increase in thermal turbulence. Instead of a diffused glow we've got the product of a less impeded energy flow that *will not* be retained by the surface, because the earth's crust pretty much sucks as a heat sink.

So now we've got these free radical transfers of solar energy at the surface of the earth, what's going to be the most affected by this? Why, the pliable substance that has collected at planet surface we call air.

Air's going to get wild and move more aggressively in paths that are largely directed by the thermal turbulence (high and low pressure zones) that is also being amplified by these periodic passes of raw solar energy that is no longer being slowed as much as it once was.

So it can be thought as if this air is carrying a charge and that charge is heat. It has more to do with thermal expansion/contraction creating zones of least resistance (this is where the air goes).

I've hung out with you fire, I'm pretty sure you've followed me to the point. You're a smart guy. ..

Now - when we have a cold dome of higher pressure fluid, it will naturally deflect (and be shaped by) the faster and inherently "lighter" flows of higher energy fluids. Yeah?

So - in the old system, the poles had numerous subsystems that encouraged the thermal retention (in this case, insulation for that cold kiss of space) at the least directly affected collection points of solar energy.

ONCE WE HEAT THOSE POINTS, from direct exposure to another heated mass, in this case the ocean; THAT THERMAL SHIELD FAILS.

I placed capitalization there not because I am yelling, but because that is a sentence that needs to be digested as a unit and I had introduced side chatter.

So what we have here is loosening the binds on the unheated or "cold" storage of thermal energy. If the flow of air becomes more pronounced through these areas you are sure as shit going to see the sinking of heat (carried by the air stream that was not there before) reaching a thermal equilibrium with the cold storage regions (it's bad form to think of them as this, but it helps my analogy) and therefore colder than normal temperatures are liberated into a moving stream of air that has to go somewhere because the warm regions are still expanding the air mass and pushing from behind.

So, through a warming we also see an increase in cold temperatures, but it's not really cold - it's a lack of warmth, and it is an active process that is undoing the cold thermal mass that has made this planet habitable.

Did that make any sense, or would you prefer to just blame dark dimension aliens or some other non-person nonsense that would allow you the comfort of feeling that you are powerless to either cause or imped this process?
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Post by xdugef » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:44 am

crochambeau wrote:Choice necro post, I gather then you've been eating berries you found in the woods?
fire wrote:for earths climate to change so radically that both highs are higher and lows are lower requires an energy input change.

end of fucking story dumbshits.
Check this out:

Cold is exposure to space. Heat is that energy input coming from the sun, obviously that's a point source input and so the actual impact on this little rock we happen to be riding on varies.

Can I assume you have a grasp on thermodynamics to the point at which you understand heat sinking and transfer of energy?

The big change is that our insulation is eroding, this makes flash point energy incursion (sun's shining, it's summer yo) a more direct course to the surface of the planet. The exosphere is not reflecting/slowing/diffusing the energy so it sinks at the surface, but being the result of a tighter beam (than a wider more averaged distribution) the surface heat storage it is prone to release the heat in a faster manner.

Easy come, easy go; right?

This creates an increase in thermal turbulence. Instead of a diffused glow we've got the product of a less impeded energy flow that *will not* be retained by the surface, because the earth's crust pretty much sucks as a heat sink.

So now we've got these free radical transfers of solar energy at the surface of the earth, what's going to be the most affected by this? Why, the pliable substance that has collected at planet surface we call air.

Air's going to get wild and move more aggressively in paths that are largely directed by the thermal turbulence (high and low pressure zones) that is also being amplified by these periodic passes of raw solar energy that is no longer being slowed as much as it once was.

So it can be thought as if this air is carrying a charge and that charge is heat. It has more to do with thermal expansion/contraction creating zones of least resistance (this is where the air goes).

I've hung out with you fire, I'm pretty sure you've followed me to the point. You're a smart guy. ..

Now - when we have a cold dome of higher pressure fluid, it will naturally deflect (and be shaped by) the faster and inherently "lighter" flows of higher energy fluids. Yeah?

So - in the old system, the poles had numerous subsystems that encouraged the thermal retention (in this case, insulation for that cold kiss of space) at the least directly affected collection points of solar energy.

ONCE WE HEAT THOSE POINTS, from direct exposure to another heated mass, in this case the ocean; THAT THERMAL SHIELD FAILS.

I placed capitalization there not because I am yelling, but because that is a sentence that needs to be digested as a unit and I had introduced side chatter.

So what we have here is loosening the binds on the unheated or "cold" storage of thermal energy. If the flow of air becomes more pronounced through these areas you are sure as shit going to see the sinking of heat (carried by the air stream that was not there before) reaching a thermal equilibrium with the cold storage regions (it's bad form to think of them as this, but it helps my analogy) and therefore colder than normal temperatures are liberated into a moving stream of air that has to go somewhere because the warm regions are still expanding the air mass and pushing from behind.

So, through a warming we also see an increase in cold temperatures, but it's not really cold - it's a lack of warmth, and it is an active process that is undoing the cold thermal mass that has made this planet habitable.

Did that make any sense, or would you prefer to just blame dark dimension aliens or some other non-person nonsense that would allow you the comfort of feeling that you are powerless to either cause or imped this process?

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Post by crochambeau » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:53 am

I swear, my functional IQ drops ten points whenever I glance at MISC, so yeah, I can buy I'm missing the point.

Some angles of offered stupidity in place of understanding are corrosive though, so I generally shoot from the hip.

Troll on my dudettes, I'll maintain my well being in more refined quarters.

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Post by xdugef » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:30 am

crochambeau wrote:I swear, my functional IQ drops ten points whenever I glance at MISC, so yeah, I can buy I'm missing the point.

Some angles of offered stupidity in place of understanding are corrosive though, so I generally shoot from the hip.

Troll on my dudettes, I'll maintain my well being in more refined quarters.
FYI Fire has posted about how it's possible to control the sun with your mind so...

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Post by fire » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:48 am

crochambeau wrote:Cold is exposure to space.
hmmm, disagree, cold is the absence of heat, where heat is measured as frequency of vibration, so really, there is no such thing as Cold, just a spectrum of heat points which exist everywhere, not just space, especially since there is no such thing as Space(not kidding)
crochambeau wrote:Heat is energy input coming from the sun, obviously that's a point source input and so the actual impact on this little rock we happen to be riding on varies.
i dare you to scientifically quantify the Heat energy coming from the sun, and i dont mean watts per square meter bullshit(electricity), explain how heat gets here through your Cold space, certainly not through convection, or space wouldnt be cold
crochambeau wrote:thermodynamics
is irrelevant after answering the above(not to mention an incomplete theory on its own, there is no such thing as black body stasis, absurd(worse than black holes, so stupid)
crochambeau wrote:The big change is that our insulation is eroding, this makes flash point energy incursion (sun's shining, it's summer yo) a more direct course to the surface of the planet. The exosphere is not reflecting/slowing/diffusing the energy so it sinks at the surface, but being the result of a tighter beam (than a wider more averaged distribution) the surface heat storage is localized (in a sun versus shaded manner) and is prone to release the heat in a faster manner.
i have not heard this, what insulation and how is it eroding?
crochambeau wrote:Now - when we have a cold dome of higher pressure fluid, it will naturally deflect (and be shaped by) the faster and inherently "lighter" flows of higher energy fluids. Yeah?
no. you got the heat signatures switched, heat is high pressure, or maybe you are confusing pressure with mass, density? why is lighter working on and deflecting heavier? that is not the observed state of things

the rest of your post wasnt quote worthy, mostly because your incomplete understanding of energy dynamics has introduced errant artifacts into your logic chain

please do not try to rebut with mainstream science or i will sick pierre robitaille on you, among others
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Post by fire » Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:53 am

xdugef wrote:FYI Fire has posted about how it's possible to control the sun with your mind so...
youre just jealous
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Post by xdugef » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:09 am

xdugef wrote:FYI Fire has posted about how it's possible to control the sun with your mind so...
That's where all the extra energy is coming from right? :shodan:

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Post by crochambeau » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:12 am

Thanks fire.

You have effectively picked apart my early morning response. I'm sure I've switched terminology as I was in wake up mode, but at this point, given aspects of your reply (ie, how does the sun heat the earth) I'll throw my hands up in the air and walk away.

Please feel like you have won if that makes a difference.

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Post by crochambeau » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:51 am

MKULTRA wrote:Curtis, please...........

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I just need a first hand reminder some times, hahahaha.

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Post by fire » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:09 am

crochambeau wrote:Thanks fire.

You have effectively picked apart my early morning response. I'm sure I've switched terminology as I was in wake up mode, but at this point, given aspects of your reply (ie, how does the sun heat the earth) I'll throw my hands up in the air and walk away.

Please feel like you have won if that makes a difference.
i will give you a head start, its magnetic resonance, harmonic vibration, also called "trapped heat" which is an amount of harmonics that cannot be parsed with the human mind(technology)

to simply blame co2 is naive

i won a long time ago, its been downhill ever since
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Post by crochambeau » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:13 am

fire wrote:i will give you a head start
No need, I'm not racing along your path. Thanks anyway!

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Post by fire » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:15 am

but youre quick to try and push me off mine :D
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Post by crochambeau » Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:27 am

fire wrote:but youre quick to try and push me off mine :D
No, I'm quick to attempt to mute what I feel is nonsense tied to certain things. No need to grope for victimization. In this example, it's an element that impacts to future of the species (my opinion only). That's not the same as a redirection of your path unless your path is so tied to the construct offered, which would marginalize your position in my perspective for sure.

We're agreed on cold, by the way. I felt veering into that dimensional angle would overly complicate the flow of my words. I'll endeavor to stick with absolute versus relative quantification should we embark on a similar conversation in the future.

As you were, nothing more to see here.

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