........

[fire]

NONE, I GOTS ALL MY DAIN BRAMAGE AS A KID

MAYBE YOU WANT TO USE YOUR PRISTINE BRAIN

TO BACK UP YOUR NONSENSE ABOUT ACIDIFICATION

OR MAYBE YOU DONT REALLY KNOW WHAT YER

TALKING ABOUT

[MKULTRA]

No, I'm done with you.

Proverbs 18:2 - Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.

[fire]

DERP, DATS WHUT I THAUGHT

TOO BAD YOU CANT BACK UP YOUR BLUFF

MAYBE YOU IGNORE AMOSES SHOULD THINK

BEFORE POSTING YOUR REGURGITATION

MAYBE IF YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT

YOU COULD EXPLAIN HOW IM WRONG

OR CONVERSELY, YOU WOULD KNOW IM RIGHT

TRY TO KEEP UP OR GET OUT OF THE WAY

[crochambeau]

NONE, I GOTS ALL MY DAIN BRAMAGE AS A KID

Thanks for the laugh, it was most helpful. Regretfully I have nothing more to contribute to the topic at hand.

[fire]

NONE, I GOTS ALL MY DAIN BRAMAGE AS A KID

Thanks for the laugh, it was most helpful. Regretfully I have nothing more to contribute to the topic at hand.

AT LEAST YOU TRIED, THANKS FOR THAT

PROBABLY ABOUT TIME FOR MKULTRA TO START REDACTING POSTS

IN A VAIN EFFORT TO SAVE FACE

[xdugef]

No, I'm done with you.

Proverbs 18:2 - Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions.

Is it Festivus again already?

[crochambeau]

NONE, I GOTS ALL MY DAIN BRAMAGE AS A KID

Thanks for the laugh, it was most helpful. Regretfully I have nothing more to contribute to the topic at hand.

AT LEAST YOU TRIED, THANKS FOR THAT

Forgive me, I love looking at Ralph.

Okay, TO RECAP:

The backbone of your position is that climate change does not exist because it cannot exist in the face of an unchanging system, therefore humans are incapable of making any impact whatsoever in terms of what passes for temperatures these days.

Your suggestion is that we should therefore defer attention away from sources of atmospheric pollution because there is a more pressing concern on both the food chain/cycle of life (Triclosan) and of uncontrolled emitters of energy diffusing into the ecosystem (radionuclides from Fukushima).

I'm not convinced in regards to your position that climate is an impact free non-issue, nor am I convinced that the way in which you reach these conclusions reflects sound thinking. BUT, as stated, I'm sort of done with that debate.

............which brings us around to the two items you escalated with. It would appear to me as if there is no handle on which to mitigate these issues, so for all intents and purposes it amounts to doom saying. Am I supposed to kowtow to the imperative nature of these things and simply bask in helplessness or did you offer up a direction through which these threats might be resolved and I just missed it through pre-filtering your words because you use terms like "libtard" etc.

you must purify and emmigrate individually to the promised land, good luck

Okay, this is the solution. Move toward the light at the center of the galaxy, away from the dark space?

In terms of grinding dimensional realms, I seriously fail to comprehend how bird dogging climate change and/or embracing argument is beneficial to this cause of yours.

This all sort of feels like a "who needs science when we have scientology?" (or any other belief shrouded discourse) moment to me. So instead of maintaining discourse I'll revert to what I know.

PS, I have a hunch anyone making it to the center of the galaxy has already paved their course, and doing the missionary service is just inviting elements of the disease along for the ride.

[fire]

The backbone of your position is that climate change does not exist because it cannot exist in the face of an unchanging system, therefore humans are incapable of making any impact whatsoever in terms of what passes for temperatures these days.

climate does change, that much is obvious, the parameters are sorely understood and important ones are discounted, like the sun

can man alter the climate? sure, if you want to get all star trek on its ass

are we doing it haphazardly? not yet, but we might someday

Your suggestion is that we should therefore defer attention away from sources of atmospheric pollution because there is a more pressing concern on both the food chain/cycle of life (Triclosan) and of uncontrolled emitters of energy diffusing into the ecosystem (radionuclides from Fukushima).

that would be a good start, at this point we are sprinting toward a dead planet, everyone just seems to want to run faster, there is no way AGW(if real) can compete with ecocide

I'm not convinced in regards to your position that climate is an impact free non-issue

the changing climate is real, we didnt instigate the changes and are ill prepared to do anything about it except adapt

Am I supposed to kowtow to the imperative nature of these things and simply bask in helplessness or did you offer up a direction through which these threats might be resolved

you play here, you pay here

its too late to save her unless we all wake up to our dilemma, dont count on that

you must purify and emmigrate individually to the promised land, good luck

Okay, this is the solution. Move toward the light at the center of the galaxy, away from the dark space?

well, you could go anywhere in the universe, i just suggest an easier move first time you do it consciously, since we are all most familiar with the local galaxy, of course you are free to stay here and see what happens, most people will, they are in love with this planet, their hearts are ill with it, and for good reason when it was a paradise, but now our global social issues reflect the health of the planet, a mess

In terms of grinding dimensional realms, I seriously fail to comprehend how bird dogging climate change and/or embracing argument is beneficial to this cause of yours.

its a main symptom of mans unwillingness to understand his connection to the universe, by disassociation with his local environs

This all sort of feels like a "who needs science when we have scientology?" (or any other belief shrouded discourse) moment to me. So instead of maintaining discourse I'll revert to what I know.

if there are no truths in science, how is it different than religion?

this whole science>religion thing is just posturing

at this very moment scientists are being confronted in the lab with conscious energy not of their own, a higher consciousness they are finding(entanglement)

PS, I have a hunch anyone making it to the center of the galaxy has already paved their course, and doing the missionary service is just inviting elements of the disease along for the ride.

hmm, curious comment, do you consider youself to be refuse? maybe you think its too late to leave?

the very act of preparing yourself to be a "citizen of the universe"(life+learning) is purifying, and i am not talking about living up to some dogma, each individual must develop their own understanding of right and wrong, to be their own god, religion and worshipper

hold on, i didnt say each of us gets to decide what is right and wrong, there is a well worn framework lurking in the Mind, disused by many but still active, some refer to it as "intuition" and when cultivated will help you literally see which way the energy flows

[s.p.i.n.]

[crochambeau]

if there are no truths in science, how is it different than religion?

In my opinion religion supposes an unproven truth as a basis for reality the questioning of which is discouraged by the adherents, whereas science has established a set of criteria against which everything is questioned.

YES - I REALIZE THERE'S A LOOPHOLE NESTED IN THAT STATEMENT.

All this bandying about is framed in human artifice anyway.

curious comment, do you consider youself to be refuse?

No, I acknowledge my own set of perceptions and threads in the bigger picture that support a lateral drift of the magnitude that you describe... but once we're talking on this magnitude of existence stuff like "hurry" is no longer relevant, so the urgency nested within the argument seems odd to me.

Based on that recent set of replies, I surmise there have either been numerous communication disconnects between my comprehension of your definitions and your comprehension of mine, or that your position contains interference grade inconsistencies.

I'm leaning on the former as to be quite honest my attention span runs a pretty shallow spar with scanning the boards and general internet caliber interaction.

Good thread, you're still goofy as fuck all with more presentation angst than is helpful, but hey, who isn't?

[fire]

if there are no truths in science, how is it different than religion?

In my opinion religion supposes an unproven truth as a basis for reality the questioning of which is discouraged by the adherents

In my opinion AGW supposes an unproven truth as a basis for reality the questioning of which is discouraged by the adherents

whereas science has established a set of criteria against which everything is questioned

unless the "science is settled"

once we're talking on this magnitude of existence stuff like "hurry" is no longer relevant, so the urgency nested within the argument seems odd to me.

indeed, with nowhere to go, whats the hurry? i guess you believe in one and youre done, i do not, in fact i know we are forever and as such i advocate for spending time among the living instead of embracing the darkness of our current path

Good thread, you're still goofy as fuck all with more presentation angst than is helpful, but hey, who isn't?

thanks for playing along

[zombra]

anyway, the sun will go into dark discharge mode within a couple hundred years which will be the end for sure, this is because we are drifting away from our Birkeland current filament that powers the sun, nothing rotating this close to dark space lasts long, we are being cast into the abyss, that is why we must move into the light(a planet closer to the galactic center), but for obvious reasons we cannot just migrate our mass of ignorance, you must purify and emmigrate individually to the promised land, good luck

what is dark discharge mode?

how does one get to the promised land?

[xdugef]

anyway, the sun will go into dark discharge mode within a couple hundred years which will be the end for sure, this is because we are drifting away from our Birkeland current filament that powers the sun, nothing rotating this close to dark space lasts long, we are being cast into the abyss, that is why we must move into the light(a planet closer to the galactic center), but for obvious reasons we cannot just migrate our mass of ignorance, you must purify and emmigrate individually to the promised land, good luck

what is dark discharge mode?

https://books.google.com/books?id=wRlDA ... de&f=false

how does one get to the promised land?

[fire]

anyway, the sun will go into dark discharge mode within a couple hundred years which will be the end for sure, this is because we are drifting away from our Birkeland current filament that powers the sun, nothing rotating this close to dark space lasts long, we are being cast into the abyss, that is why we must move into the light(a planet closer to the galactic center), but for obvious reasons we cannot just migrate our mass of ignorance, you must purify and emmigrate individually to the promised land, good luck

what is dark discharge mode?

how does one get to the promised land?

when the sun goes dark

it will die with a soft red glow

diffusing into a softer purple glow

which expands ever larger

as the liquid metal hydrogen

begins to boil off


the promised land is wherever you go, most of us come back here, our heart is here, in this planet, we all know each other, its familiar, even if we fight, its normal, we love it

when the sun goes out, there will be many souls still not willing to leave, they will cling to the dead earth, as crystals or minerals, eventually to be dispersed across dark space, the abyss, slowly becoming the low end of the trough, the sub atomic

others will leave for a new heavens and a new earth, many already have, all through the ages, many travellers have gone many places, and yes, the over zealous sometimes speed their process up with suicide cults, because the sun cant die soon enough for them, and a dead comet is some solace, but, far more have tuned into a far off energy, one they have learned about from a master, a spirit guide, telling them about heaven or paradise, some perfection, this draws the student forward

it is life and death, everyone chooses

i advocate life, its where everything is most complex, most interesting, most of us are still recovering from being particles and are just barely alive as it is, still so much to learn and enjoy in our short time

avoid the worldwide death cult

the sun is the provider of all complexity here, it is the best master to learn from, form a personal cult between you and the sun

[zombra]

when's the sun getting its dark discharge on?

if i'm culting it up with the sun, will i last until it goes out? will i be able to move on afterwards? is there a point when pupil turns master (i become sun)?