Striations wrote:I'm not watching movies as a substitute for reading books and researching, it's just a supplement.
And your right about art being just as truthful as the news, ect. I know these films do not come close to actually being there. I think its interesting in itself that the films even were made in the first place. These directors must have truly hated the war as it motivated them to undertake the processes of making the films.
I don't get what you say about how interesting is that the movies get made... And how they hated war. That seems a little naive.
John Milius, who wrote the Apocalypse Now script and is a very good director himself (Conan FFS) doesn't seem like the guy who hates war so much, and I think some blockhead like Oliver Stone were more interested in the visuals/theme and stuff like that, or even bright guys like Cimino and Coppola. It's like that scene on FMJ where the guy is shooting from the helicopter randomly "Get some! Ain't war hell?".
You hardly see human beings being treated with such dignity in any of those vietnam movies as they were in Samuel Fuller WWII movies (The Big Red One), it's everything way more geared towards the epic/operatic/heroic or just anti war babble. It's a weird war and it doesn't seem to have being fully digested and understood, maybe never will be. Ain't all Vietnam movies about americans anyway? I mean, not american soldiers, but the very concept of "american" and the pain/burden/stupidity/bravery of the american?
Some cool reading:
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1981/0 ... ispatches/
(About DePalma Casualties of War)
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1987/0 ... loody-war/
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2015/0 ... heme-park/
(About the AN doc, "Hearts of Darkness")
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1987/0 ... rger-hill/
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1999/0 ... me-coming/
http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/2005/0 ... d-the-men/
("Winter Soldier" seems interesting)
That being said, I really must see "Rescue Dawn" ASAP.