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NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by cracklehunter » Fri May 18, 2018 12:16 am

Hi,

I have been experimenting with a Behringer 802 along with a Zoom G1Next and a Behringer HM300.

Usual patches I follow:

Mixer Channel 1 L > Zoom G1Next O/P > Zoom G1Next I/P > Mixer FX Send
Mixer Channel 2 L > Behringer HM300 O/P > Behringer HM300 I/P > Mixer Phone O/P
Mixer Channel 3 L > Mixer Control Room L
Mixer Main O/P L > Laney Speaker

I am able to get some noise out of the feedback loops mentioned above. But the problem is they are not thick and static enough. I was wondering is it possible to create HNW using NIMB? If yes, can someone suggest me the right modifications like additional pedals, right patches, etc.

Thanks you.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by MKULTRA » Fri May 18, 2018 1:23 am

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by cracklehunter » Fri May 18, 2018 2:50 am

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by melkobukva » Fri May 18, 2018 5:05 am

Use the Zoom's pitch shifter at -12 and fiddle with the lows on the 802.

If you decide to expand the setup, grab something that doesn't destroy low frequency content like your current pedals do.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by MKULTRA » Fri May 18, 2018 5:12 am

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by crochambeau » Fri May 18, 2018 5:48 am

If I'm understanding what you're after, I would recommend finding a way to amplify floor noise before engaging a loop. A long branch (not folded back in) input feeding the loop perhaps.

Grabbing the latest and greatest low noise mixer (or cheap knock off copy) might not be the easiest path in this, but, with enough gain you can achieve anything.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by Bipolar Fucking Joe » Fri May 18, 2018 9:13 am

I've never bothered trying this, but would a compressor turned up full-whack do the job you're after? If you're just amplifying the noise floor it might work? I'm curious for myself now.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by WhiteWarlock » Fri May 18, 2018 9:47 am

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is it really just creating basic opamp feedback loops as OSC w/FX units?
have done it by accident before yet always fast on faders/mute
have reason for asking plus does anyone have example block diagrams
contemplating utilizing as generators in some designs since reading your NIMB post
agree with slap compressor on output>input for cranking noise floor method
you can probably grab bunch of Boss CS pedal cheap
they are fucking noise generators as it is before doing mods
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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by crochambeau » Fri May 18, 2018 9:57 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 9:47 am

is it really just creating basic opamp feedback loops as OSC w/FX units?
Yup. From a purist standpoint we're just looking at the preamp block feeding the EQ stack and summing section on back to the input forming up a manual oscillator with poor steady state level control. Once FX are in play I tend to think it's no longer "no input", but either side of this unimportant argument has valid points.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by MKULTRA » Fri May 18, 2018 11:47 am

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by crochambeau » Fri May 18, 2018 1:34 pm

Just a bent bit of wire can work, like a bent out coat hanger.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by WhiteWarlock » Fri May 18, 2018 2:17 pm

passive boxes with hardwired Y cable type circuit 1 input volume pot 2 bridged outputs?
with maybe 4 channels of them
better yet would be opamp boosted 9v powered version of same concept
with good gain increase

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by cracklehunter » Tue May 22, 2018 9:19 am

melkobukva wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 5:05 am
Use the Zoom's pitch shifter at -12 and fiddle with the lows on the 802.

If you decide to expand the setup, grab something that doesn't destroy low frequency content like your current pedals do.
Awesome! Will give it a try and let you know the results ;)

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by cracklehunter » Tue May 22, 2018 9:22 am

MKULTRA wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 5:12 am

I consider No Input Mixing to utilize nothing but patch cords. Each mixer will yield it's own sonic character, sounds and possibilities. Figure out what YOUR mixer can do because you may be surprised. As long as you don't have a laptop in your set-up you will be fine.
(Because laptops don't belong in noise set-ups.)



Tape out to Channel 3 is something I can try. Let me try it. Thanks.

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Re: NIMB & Harsh Noise

Post by cracklehunter » Tue May 22, 2018 9:24 am

Bipolar Fucking Joe wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 9:13 am
I've never bothered trying this, but would a compressor turned up full-whack do the job you're after? If you're just amplifying the noise floor it might work? I'm curious for myself now.
I was thinking adding fuzz or distortion might help. Never bothered to get a compressor. Maybe that's what I need.

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