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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue May 15, 2018 12:39 pm

eye buy broken pedals or make them out of spare parts
(mostly from destroyed/desoldered Televisions...
We harvested 23+ TV's from Chicago trash cannibalizing circuits boards)
plus whatever required extra chips/componets
have an inventory anymore of on hand parts
can't think of any pedal ever paid more than $100
used to obsessively hunt ebay & craigslist for broken gear including pedals
yet that's me
creative resourcefulness goes long way in life
plus you actually "appreciate" what you have

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue May 15, 2018 12:46 pm

look for "lots" of as is for parts not working effects pedals on ebay
learn how to solder
basic troubleshooting skillz

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by melkobukva » Tue May 15, 2018 1:10 pm

a guy sells a "for parts" Digitech Studio Quad V2 for $30
not even fried, just freezes on boot up
very tempted to grab it and try to reanimate...

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue May 15, 2018 1:37 pm

that synopsis is a little more tricky... probably bad cap effecting boot up... yet could be flaky custom CMOS
it's definitely not a bad potentiometer or something "simple"
you can try testing chip power voltage at CMOS chips
should be +5v
if it isn't then start replacing caps in power circuit
though have made such things work with hard manual jumper wire resets
more advanced troubleshooting methods

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by melkobukva » Tue May 15, 2018 1:46 pm

Thanks! I was planning to try hard reset and replacing the internal battery first, it often works for those units, and if it doesn't then a bad cap it is, most likely.

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Tue May 15, 2018 2:00 pm

Eye have old rule of only buying things that can "appreciate" in value
from factor between 4 and 10 times
or if can't repair it by factor of 2x
based on whatever cash have sunk into initial investment
used to be way easier
seems like more people have started picking up electronics repair skills
ebay prices on broken gear is way up... absurdly some times
thus need upping my game on creating new hardware

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by xdugef » Tue May 15, 2018 3:57 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 2:00 pm
Eye have old rule of only buying things that can "appreciate" in value
from factor between 4 and 10 times
Yeah that's pretty hard to pull off on a regular basis these days especially if you are trying to pickup a deal on ebay.

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by crochambeau » Wed May 16, 2018 4:45 am

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 1:37 pm

you can try testing chip power voltage at CMOS chips
should be +5v
Always pull a datasheet, most modern stuff used in effects pedals these days runs 3.3. There's also a lower volt class than that, but us neaderthals in the audio world won't see a lot of that for a few years yet. Therefore..

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Wed May 16, 2018 7:04 am

crochambeau wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:45 am

Always pull a datasheet, most modern stuff used in effects pedals these days runs 3.3. There's also a lower volt class than that, but us neaderthals in the audio world won't see a lot of that for a few years yet. Therefore..
yeah... thanks for response...
except was making more specific reference that digitech quad rack unit in question for him
saying always pull datasheets is a given for some of us
was actually attempting making him comprehend that is probably not an "easy fix"
not sure of his experience level with circuits
it's freezing during "boot"
obviously you get what eye am saying
already experiencing 3.3v
no biggie

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by Bipolar Fucking Joe » Wed May 16, 2018 9:46 am

Being honest, there's enough indie pedal guys and small pedal manufacturers around these days that buying sub $100 Behringer pedals, which have a bad reputation for a reason, is fairly dim.

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Wed May 16, 2018 10:24 am


Behringer have bad reputation for extremely valid reasons...
or should eye point out the vintage tube series racks
taking up space over my workbench
they look good
you open them up
tiny PCB
with literally "weights" in the case
beyond merely "flimsy" knobs
they look great like actually quality gear
Image
until you attempt using them for real & expect them sounding like real gear
Don't waste your money on those, as i did years ago. Compressor was totally useless. Edgy, harsh thin... The same with preamp. So called tube, simply adds sum fuzz to sound and nothing else. For the money you can find much better compresoor and preamps.
Starved plate designs
makes for pretty lights
doesn't help sound much
durability??? what's that
regardless is behringer improve their products
they have burned enough of us they we will never give them any more cash
or any compliments
yet if someone starting out wants buying behringer pedals
suggest you spray paint them or something
for disguising what they actually are
since they do have "that bad" of a reputation

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by crochambeau » Wed May 16, 2018 12:56 pm

WhiteWarlock wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 7:04 am
crochambeau wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 4:45 am

Always pull a datasheet, most modern stuff used in effects pedals these days runs 3.3. There's also a lower volt class than that, but us neaderthals in the audio world won't see a lot of that for a few years yet. Therefore..
yeah... thanks for response...
except was making more specific reference that digitech quad rack unit in question for him
saying always pull datasheets is a given for some of us
was actually attempting making him comprehend that is probably not an "easy fix"
not sure of his experience level with circuits
it's freezing during "boot"
obviously you get what eye am saying
already experiencing 3.3v
no biggie
Fair enough, I just recall this post from another thread:
WhiteWarlock wrote:
Fri May 11, 2018 10:45 am

FYI there are also digital IC chips
they run on +5v
some examples of that modern realm
would be Mutable Instruments module designs
specifically granular synthesis such as "clouds"
..and wanted to clarify for the other millions of people who have the ability to read in here (not that they do) to pull the fucking datasheet before diving in so you don't have a cookout.

My understanding of the clouds in particular is that it too is a 3.3v chipset.

No biggie

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Re: >$100 Pedals

Post by WhiteWarlock » Wed May 16, 2018 1:07 pm

Image
operates from 5v supply from power buss
must have 3.3V LD/LDO Voltage regulator
haven't built one
or any mutable SMD DIY projects
can you confirm that suspicion?
you are absolutely correct
https://www.amazingsynth.com/pcb-info/
if have no experience with the IC in question always check the datasheet
before ever go "poking" around in the circuit

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