Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Talk about music gear for noise music

Moderator: xome

Post Reply
User avatar
GROSS
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:55 pm
Location: Russia
Contact:

Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by GROSS » Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:50 am

As I can see now, the most useful effect pedals for noise are distortions, delays, envelope filters and some other.

But what about reverbs, choruses, flangers, phasers, tremolos. Are they useless and just waste of money for noise, or they can make your sound unique? If they are usefull, what pedals can you recommend? Should I buy quality stuff like Boss phasers, flangers and so on, or Behringer ones are good enough? Maybe I should look for "crazy" effects, like Ibanez chorus/flanger? If so, what pedals can craze up your sound?

s.p.i.n.
Posts: 1377
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:58 am
Location: Left of Tampa
Contact:

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by s.p.i.n. » Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:52 am

Image

User avatar
¼ dead
Posts: 1005
Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:23 pm

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by ¼ dead » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:17 am

There is no such thing as "useless" in noise. I mean, it's all equally useless. And noise in general is a complete waste of money. I'm pretty certain at this point that it is, at least culturally speaking, nothing more than a diversion for bitter incels, pretentious art students, burned-out indie rockers and bombed-out acid casualties.

For what it's worth, you can get some extra mileage out of just about any pedal circuit if you are willing to modify it through component switching or circuit bending. And, depending on where they're placed and how they're used, modulation pedals can behave in ways you might not expect. It's just a matter of how they are made to interact with the other equipment around them.

User avatar
Bipolar Fucking Joe
Posts: 5201
Joined: Wed Apr 01, 2009 11:55 am

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by Bipolar Fucking Joe » Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:25 am

The Verbzilla is an important part of my own set up, it's really great solo in a feedback loop.

I think it was Moisturizer (Probably not) that has a release that's almost entirely flangers. I've personally found flangers, phasers and choruses to be pretty dependant on what you put into them when it comes to harsh noise, but for ambient stuff a chorus is really helpful.

Like 1/2 Dead says, modifying time modulating pedals can really open them up and give you incredibly unique sounds. Open one up, put a battery in it and poke around the circuit with a wire. The Arion range are perfect for bending, especially the stereo phaser. Mine has over thirty switches on it ranging from tone generation to really compressed distortion.

User avatar
crochambeau
Posts: 2741
Joined: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:48 pm
Location: earth.
Contact:

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by crochambeau » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:53 am

Standard implementation of flange/phase/chorus superimposes a very periodic change to the effect that has a tendency to grab ones ears "by the balls" and then typically say nothing.

This has resulted in a somewhat historical position of derision, though there are plenty of workarounds to explore.

I have an old rack delay that has a VCO input (for the repeat clock) and that can be fun to dial up short delay times with higher repeat counts (AKA flange) and let the VCO input rage with some audio instead of a standard periodic sine wave (AKA LFO). But even then, it's hard to not paint myself into a corner with the root sound type.

User avatar
GROSS
Posts: 17
Joined: Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:55 pm
Location: Russia
Contact:

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by GROSS » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:42 am

s.p.i.n. wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 5:52 am
Image
Thanks for the idea. But Behringer somehow doesn't have reverb and reviews weren't so good. So I found some pedal, which in my country known as Invasion ME100. Pretty decent pedal, super cheap, with a lot of functions, in metal case, with reverb and even EQ. So f*ck all these expensive separare effect pedals. This is good enough. The only major drawback is clicking in tremolo while lows and mids are engaged.

Image

User avatar
timdrage
Posts: 4796
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:08 am
Contact:

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by timdrage » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:16 am

Are they useless and just waste of money for noise, or they can make your sound unique?
Yes.

User avatar
Dyecap
Posts: 129
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2015 12:59 pm

Re: Flangers, phasers, choruses for noise?

Post by Dyecap » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:33 pm

timdrage wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:16 am
Are they useless and just waste of money for noise, or they can make your sound unique?
Yes.
+/- 1
:doh:

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 7 guests