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guitar modification?

Post by ablablablablabla » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:05 am

any ideas on how to turn an electric guitar into a noise machine?


all i can think of right now is using steel wire instead of strings and maybe hammer in a few nails here and there... an amplified steel plate on the back of it....


is there a way to tweak the pickups?




*thinking hard*


of course i'd play it with a drill...

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Post by xdugef » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:23 am

My first noise project involved a cheap electric guitar restrung with bailing wire and an electric toothbrush plugged into a stereo receiver with some faulty and very dirty pots on it.

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Post by flies » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:26 am

'prepared guitar' is a good way to go. you're probably familiar with kevin drumm, but if you're not you should check out his solo stuff - it's defintiely on the improv tip but much of it is extremely harsh (album picks: 1st, 2nd, land of lurches, sheer hellish miasmah is my favorite listen here http://www.bleep.com/current_item.php?s ... MEGO053_DM ).

do you mean 'how do i use a guitar for noise' or 'how can circuit-bend my guitar'. i don't know muhc about the 2nd question, but definitely, attach metal to the strings (paper clips, sheets, magnets) and get an ebow, hand-held fans, and of course acoustic feedback.... :)

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Post by obscurica » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:08 am

I agree with those two Kevin Drumm recommendations. To that I'd add a recommendation for Brian Ruryk. I don't know exactly how he prepares his guitars, but they come out sounding like they're in a trash compacter, really nice sounds.

I know, this isn't helping you at all..

You could try putting a variety of different microphones on your guitar. Contact mic on the bridge, and/or the nut, computer microphones under the strings, dollar store mic's duct taped right on top of the strings, go nuts.

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Post by xdugef » Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:04 am

circuit bending it depends entirely on what circuitry is available.. some guitars have more or less to work with.

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Post by ablablablablabla » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:03 pm

meh, there was nothing to work with... so i just added a microphone and connected the three invidual pick-ups so they work as one.

strings of steel wire.



huray

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Post by novasak » Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:05 pm

you can always 'add' cicuitry to it. On my bass, I have added an N567 oscillator with LPB2 in the curcuit cavity, and an optical theremin to the neck. So I get two extra tone thingys when its played. Plus I added two more pickups that are NOT under the strings, they are just there to feedback with the speakers. Slinkies are added to the headstock and contact mic'd, so I get junk noise when I swing it around too. It has four output jacks, so cables are an issue with movement. This is modified fairly recently, so I have not played live with it yet. It's broken once already.

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that is sweet

Post by pcrv » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:39 pm

todd,

that sounds fucking sweet. i play bass too. i've been thinking about prepared bass alot. i wasn't sure if others out there play prepared bass.


i love to hear some recordings of that.

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Post by obscurica » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:48 pm

Stan from Blue Sabbath Black Cheer plays a prepared bass.

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Post by pcrv » Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:00 am

nice.


i've been thinking about a solo bass album for years.


we'll see.

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novasaks bass

Post by novasak » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:31 pm

Novasak's Prepared Bass
- A 1996 Ibanez TRB70
Audio sample http://novasak.com/bass.mp3
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The theremin is still kind of broken, but you get the idea.

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Post by pcrv » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:18 pm

todd,


like the sample. is that all just the bass run thru a distortion. very interesting.


gives me ideas.

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Post by novasak » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:10 pm

and some delay on the strings. Each thing has its own output, I can switch and combine on the fly, and eq seperately. yet all feeding back through speakers.

Thinking of a way to add a resonator.... maybe pull out the ole router, make a new hole....

Someday Ill DO something with this....

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Post by timdrage » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:24 am

Cheap pickups you can smash the wax, which makes them microphonic... hence more feedback and rubbish sound.

That bass looks great!

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