Guitars in Noise

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Post by the_lurking_ear » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:36 pm

Not sure if this belongs in the Gear or Noise sections...

What's the consensus on the use of guitars in noise? I get the feeling it's kind of a cop-put or a cliche to use guitars in noise music, mostly based on a review I read in the Existence Establishment zine that shit on it. Do you guys and girls use guitars in your sound?
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Post by RJMyato » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:48 pm

use anything and everything. here is a playlist of good noise guitar i post constantly

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5397C878DE40CF3F

edit: by post constantly i mean post every time this thread comes up which is fairly often
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Post by RJMyato » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:49 pm

actually if anyone has stuff to add to that plz suggest.

noise guitar solos only, no akiyama/bailey esque improv stuff or stuff w a band.

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Post by Laura91 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:07 pm

I was hoping that Solmania was on this list. No Diesel Guitar, though.

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Post by timdrage » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:49 am

some great real NOISE acts with guitar i've seen/heard:
Terminal Outputs
Jason Williams/Mothers of the Third Reich
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Post by MKULTRA » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:40 am

Otomo Yoshihide.
Glen Branca.
Derek Bailey
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Post by MrBook » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:57 am

How about the KING OF NOISE, Jojo Hiroshige?
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Post by fire » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:55 am

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Post by crochambeau » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:33 pm

Guitar is one of those that's more difficult to unlearn habits on, most everything about a guitar is designed to route your approach along a certain path. Mind you, that path can be mighty wide at points, but it does boil to to a specific function that produces signal and a somewhat fixed method of getting those signals out into the world.

Naturally, this applies to essentially every instrument or object that can be applied in the process of making sound. The "problem" with guitar, and particularly electric guitar, is that an entire industry has sprung up to aid and abet the budding guitarist, and have been churning out gewgaws for many decades.

The resultant tool set contains some huge labor saving devices, which, sometimes cultivates shortcuts and enables laziness. Kind of like the internet.

It's fully raised the bar, but the game was limbo and now there's a swamping fuck ton of mediocre assholes rubbing out rote solos like masturbating to bra ads on TV.

I play guitar in a band, and avoid playing it with noise. That is not to say that I don't poo poo the idea of playing it in a wide open no holds barred manner. It can be done. I don't personally feel adept enough at doing it successfully without exhibiting traits I do not like.

That's where the needle drops between drone and noise with me. Whenever I go spastic on record, I cringe on hearing it later. Maybe I just suck?

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So to answer: it can be done it just seems like most people have no business doing it.
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Post by RJMyato » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:13 pm

Laura91 wrote:I was hoping that Solmania was on this list. No Diesel Guitar, though.
Oh yeah i thought i had that live in bedroom video on there, forgot

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Post by the_lurking_ear » Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:46 pm

crochambeau wrote:The "problem" with guitar, and particularly electric guitar, is that an entire industry has sprung up to aid and abet the budding guitarist, and have been churning out gewgaws for many decades.

The resultant tool set contains some huge labor saving devices, which, sometimes cultivates shortcuts and enables laziness. Kind of like the internet.

It's fully raised the bar, but the game was limbo and now there's a swamping fuck ton of mediocre assholes rubbing out rote solos like masturbating to bra ads on TV.
You just expressed my feeling about rock guitar
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Post by RJMyato » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:57 pm

That's where the needle drops between drone and noise with me.
what's this referring to

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Post by xdugef » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:26 am

crochambeau wrote:So to answer: it can be done it just seems like most people have no business doing it.
it's usually done best by people who can actually play the guitar

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Post by crochambeau » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:48 am

RJMyato wrote:
That's where the needle drops between drone and noise with me.
what's this referring to
Noise and drone, two parallel though distinct sonic experiences, similar to grooves in a record. Records are played with a stylus or needle. Lower the tone arm and the needle will find a groove. I'm bringing my own interpretation of what NOISE is and what DRONE is to the conversation. I will drone on a guitar, I do not noise on a guitar. Like all my posts, it boils down to a reflection of my own experience and equates to OPINION, plain and simple.

Sorry, perhaps it was all a shitty analogy. I think I was getting heat baked about the time I wrote that on Friday afternoon. Curious, what did you think I was talking about?
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crochambeau wrote:So to answer: it can be done it just seems like most people have no business doing it.
it's usually done best by people who can actually play the guitar
Agreed, and best AVOIDED by those who THINK they can play the guitar.
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Post by xdugef » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:02 am

crochambeau wrote: Agreed, and best AVOIDED by those who THINK they can play the guitar.
It's not that I've really seen it used that often.. but most of the time I see it as prop.. in otherwords it could be anything so why pick a guitar.. or better yet make your own "stringed" instrument.. etc

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