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by jliat
Sat May 26, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

So you bring up Nigel Fabb whom I never quoted (or even read) to prove that Hogan is an incompetent douchebag. And Fabb is supposed to be a douchebag, because avantgarde poetry does not conform with his definition of poetry. No I visited the site which you gave a link. There I found that and other ...
by jliat
Sat May 26, 2018 8:33 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

If you mentioned volcanoes why the ask the question latter, no I think you are just trolling. So do you make noise, how is it you know about the guys you cited? Student? You can if you want to follow what i'm getting at go to the texts on my site. And I can if you like give you positive feedback fro...
by jliat
Sat May 26, 2018 6:08 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

I think you really should stop editing my responses in such a way as to alter their meaning... “Those who made it and the critics who discussed it. Not the general public's votes. And the critical evaluation of what the genre was can continue within those interested in it.” I also think its confusin...
by jliat
Fri May 25, 2018 10:43 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: An external observer
Replies: 34
Views: 304

Re: An external observer

If so - just what does that make you? :angel: ? Gee, I wonder how Oliver Tex feels about being pressed into servicing your self-aggrandizing agenda? Please - this is not the place for self aggrandizement. The Oliver Tex thread i'm just trying to support the idea that noise is not decided either by ...
by jliat
Fri May 25, 2018 10:32 pm
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

I asked about making things, you answered about making sense of things. Do you consider 'making' and 'making sense of' equivalent? "Noise preceded humans, and is based on perceived properties, dissonance, loudness, randomness... etc." Noise was made by things, volcanoes thunder storms and eventuall...
by jliat
Fri May 25, 2018 1:43 pm
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

Oh in the same way that we make sense of the world before we were here to make sense, i.e. there were once things we call dinosaurs which once were living creatures...

And that the idea that poetry isnt ordinary writing or that the Duchamp's fountain was just a joke. Pleasssseeeeessae :eew:
by jliat
Fri May 25, 2018 2:59 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: An external observer
Replies: 34
Views: 304

Re: An external observer

Bonehole wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 1:28 am
jliat wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 11:13 am
I guessed that was what you meant, i was kinda fooling with you.... but you didnt see that?
I guess that's what Harvey Weinstein's defence will be, too.
If so - just what does that make you? :angel: ?
by jliat
Fri May 25, 2018 12:48 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

You are - again! - mixing up things that precede human classifications of things and human classifications of things that are based on percieved properties of things. Both apply to terms like 'noise', 'impressionism', 'minimalism', 'art'. And noise. Noise preceded humans , and is based on perceived...
by jliat
Thu May 24, 2018 11:55 pm
Forum: Gear
Topic: No Input Mixing - Purism
Replies: 25
Views: 225

Re: No Input Mixing - Purism

"No input" is such a misnomer anyway. Terms though are often far from perfect, but just to label an object or method. Look at the trouble with "Noise". Famously it said of the Holy Roman Empire, it was never Holy, Roman or an Empire. Impressionism and Minimalism were both terms of abuse, as i guess...
by jliat
Thu May 24, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

Mr. jliat says that artists must define the genre. No I don't, i'm saying that noise artists MAKE the genre. This why the philosopher guy you gave a link to made a fatal mistake in thinking he knew what made poetry different to ordinary text. It might once have been but the likes of Ken Goldsmith -...
by jliat
Thu May 24, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: An external observer
Replies: 34
Views: 304

Re: An external observer

why don't you write your own books on philosophy are you not paying attention at all to the world around you or so brainwashed that you are blinded "Phalologocentric, and written by white males..." sort of annoyed by that comment glad eye sold those original cage books/manuscripts to thurston moore...
by jliat
Thu May 24, 2018 2:31 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: An external observer
Replies: 34
Views: 304

Re: An external observer

Bonehole wrote:
Thu May 24, 2018 1:47 am


I suggest you read WhiteWarlock's post above and take his advice seriously.

"That Oliver Tex album is so midi orchestrated melodic...
like maybe 1% of it gets anywhere slightly near "noise"
Envelope Generator pitch modulation....
ummmm
yeah
well
jliat wins that round"


OK...
by jliat
Thu May 24, 2018 1:29 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

I say music genres are defined socially, you say it's wrong because noise has objective attributes. Then I say noise has objective attributes, and I'm wrong again! Despite the very fact that I said the same thing you stated a paragraph earlier yourself. I don't understand. Its fairly simple. You se...
by jliat
Wed May 23, 2018 9:52 am
Forum: Gear
Topic: No Input Mixing - Purism
Replies: 25
Views: 225

Re: No Input Mixing - Purism

Meta-purism

No output mixing.
by jliat
Wed May 23, 2018 1:12 am
Forum: Noise
Topic: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise
Replies: 91
Views: 3291

Re: My name is Oliver Tex and I make noise

The point is that thesis (buy a feedback looper) and antithesis (call it noise, then it is noise) are both wrong (and therefore both right in a way!), and it is the search of synthesis that can lead to actual understanding. It would have been helpful if then you said this in the first place. So whe...